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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: ?Localhost tracking? explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 21:40:04 +0200
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On 2025-06-22 21:20, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-06-22 12:15, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> The point is, whatsapp is closed source, it could be doing other things
>>>> beside sending your messages. It could be snooping on other things and
>>>> sending that data elsewhere. Meta has now demonstrated it doesn't worry
>>>> too much about the law. Do you want that software on your phone? or are
>>>> you going to wait for the next thing to be discovered?
>>>
>>>     I just was in the UK for two weeks and the TV broadcasts are
>>> splattered with commercials from WhatsApp, saying that your messages are
>>> safe and that no-one, including WhatsApp can read them.
>>>
>>>     Of course, commercials 'lie' all the time, but these would open
>>> WhatsApp to some serious legal action (and fines), so until proven
>>> otherwise, we'll should assume that WhatsApp is *not* lying.
>>
>> I understand they can read them with a court order. Somehow. Maybe it
>> means they have to impound the phones first.
>>
>> There are some corruption cases in the media now in Spain, and their WA
>> conversations are being displayed on TV all the time.
> 
>    That could well be cases of unencrypted WhatsApp *backup*, on the
> *device* (i.e. private unless/until hacked) or/and on the *user*'s
> Google Drive (same).
> 
>    By default, WhatsApp *backup* is unencrypted, but that doesn't mean
> that others - than the 'owner'/user of the chats - or WhatsApp can read
> them.

Oh, they have court orders. How exactly they are accessing is what I do 
not know.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.