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On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 12:41:32 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

>JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
>spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>
>>Well at least it's computer related, so I read something that the online 
>>version of The Daily Express newspaper have introduced a model that 
>>allows you either to read it for free but then you must accept being 
>>tracked with cookies or pay a subscription of �2 per-month to avoid 
>>them. There have been some comments about whether that's allowed under 
>>GDPR (the UK is still signed up although I'm surprised our last 
>>government didn't scrap it as party of EU meddling*) and why on earth 
>>would any pay to read that awful rag**?
>
>Just use a cookie manager that auto-deletes.
>
>I have for years had my browsers set to delete cookies and history upon
>closing, and in recent years used cookie monster or other cookie deleter
>to auto delete cookies moments after they are set.


Agree, although a cookie manager that auto-deletes and has a way
white-list certain sites is better. Some sites I frequent too often
that having to re-enter commonly used information is too much a pain
;-)

>I use ad blockers to not see ads.
>And adblock adjacent programs to remove other inconveniences from online
>papers (stupid graphics, interstitial ads that aren't outside ads, but
>ads for their own content, sports section that I have no interest in,
>etc.

I absolutely won't read a website that won't display correctly unless
I have to turn off my adblocker. 

It's not just that I despise advertising (or rather, marketing),
although that's certainly an issue. I'm equally concerned about the
tracking. But advertising has also too often been a vector for malware
that it's simply not SAFE to surf the web without an adblocker. 

I'm also enough of an old-school idealist who remembers when
advertising was persona non grata on the Internet, and while I
/intellectually/ understand the argument that 'content creators gotta
get paid', adverts still seem a violation of everything the Internet
was supposed to be about, and I reject it at an almost instinctual
level.

Fortunately, ad-blocking tools like UBlock Origin make the web usable
again, to the point I almost never see adverts anymore. For the few
content creators I really like, I'll donate to the patreon. But I've
no qualms about freeloading off big corporate websites. Fuck 'em.
Despite my best efforts, I'm sure they're still harvesting and selling
my data anyway, so I've little doubt they're still coming out ahead if
I visit one of their websites.

And if I can't visit your site with an adblocker, well, there are
billions of other websites I can frequent instead.