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On 4/6/25 11:09 PM, Rich wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 4/5/25 9:08 PM, Rich wrote:
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>     As for the govt drones (half of which seem to be 'probationary'
>>>>     employees yet getting all the perks)
>>>
>>> Do note that in the US federal govt, the meaning of a "probationary
>>> employee" is very different from the normal private sector usage (it
>>> is unfortunate the statue writers chose 'probationary' for their
>>> word, but here we are).
>>
>>    Well ... HERE WE ARE .......
>>
>>    Politics is about *appearances* more than any realities.
>>
>>    If I hear "probationary" I think some Gen-Z/A2 dink kinda part-time
>>    drones who don't deserve any consideration.
> 
> Yes, and that's probably what the rest of the country thinks, since
> unless they've been a govt. employee at some point, they would never
> have had a chance to learn the "government" meaning.  As I said, it is
> unfortunate the statute writers chose the word "probationary", but they
> did, so it is the word used.
> 
>>> It simply means they have been on the job for less than one year,
>>> and what is different for 'probationary' employess is they don't
>>> have all of the usual protections from arbitrary and capricious
>>> firings as those who have been on the job for more than one year.
>>> The purpose is to give the govt a one year window to see if the
>>> employee actually can do the job, and allow an easier time of laying
>>> them off if it turns out they can't do the job.
>>
>>    Um, WHY so many <1yr people ??? Sounds like a Joe
>>    initiative to reinforce the bureaucracy/deep-state.
> 
> Most realistic reason, given the number of people employed by the fed:
> there is a constant churn of old workers retiring (or dying) off and
> others who quit to go elsewhere with the accompanyng new hires being
> hired to replace those that have left.  Just that, given size size of
> the fed, without any "joe initiatives" would produce a quite large
> count of folks in "probationary" status, more than enough for the
> numbers being quoted in the press.  Another quirk of the govt.
> "probationary" status is if one changes jobs within the govt, one
> becomes "probationary" for the first year of the new job.  So a portion
> of the "probationary" workers have more than a year total govt
> experience, but are "probationary" because they switched jobs within
> the fed.
> 
>>    So, FIRE them all !
> 
> And with that, the workers that make sure your prescription drugs won't
> accidentally poison you, or those that make sure your steak does not
> include a deadly does of salmonella, or those that make sure you get
> your social security check (if one is drawing one), or those who make
> sure one's medicare payments go through for medical services (for those
> old enough to be forced to be on medicare), or the forest service
> workers rescuing hikers who get themselves hopelessly lost in the
> woods, or a whole host of other services that many have no idea is
> being provided by the federal workforce.
> 
>>>>     well, big/deep state is a POWER BASE and TAPPABLE
>>>>     CASH FLOW for some of the people who are REALLY in
>>>>     charge, so they DO freak about that kind of stuff.
>>>
>>> The federal employees never were the "deep state".
>>
>>    Oh, please !!!
>>
>>    If not 'part', then 'pawns'.
> 
> One could argue 'pawns' convincingly.  And as well, no 'pawn' (on a
> chessboard or in the fed) is "calling the shots" either.  The "deep
> state" would be the ones "calling the shots" rather than the lowly
> pieces on the board that are being moved about by the "shot caller".
> 
> Right now, the 'pawns' are being fired, while the 'chess players'
> remain around.  That's hardly clearing the "deep state", to leave
> around the ones that were calling the shots.


   Hey, NEXT step, go after the OTHER players ... but
   you've gotta strip them of their shield of pawns
   first ........

   Some like to think Trump and friends don't understand
   all this - but it's self-delusion. Trump is playing
   HARD, real, politics here. He was fucked-over by the
   WokieComs ... NOW he's gonna destroy them.

   Doing kinda well so far.