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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: More about RCS.
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:32:53 +0100
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On 2025-01-11 12:53, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Carlos E.R., 2025-01-10 20:32:
> 
>> On 2025-01-10 18:28, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-01-05 22:25:
>>>
>>>> On 05.01.25 21:48, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> Google offered to help
>>>>> Apple, but they refused.
>>>>
>>>> *ROTFLSTC*! Apple urgently needs help from Google!
>>>> Are you sure you understand the mechanics?
>>>>
>>>> At the network interfaces/borders the NSA has real time access to all
>>>> information irrespective what Google says.
>>>>
>>>> Proprietary standards are lacking trust at any level.
>>>
>>> FaceTime and iMessage are lacking trust at any level - because they are
>>> proprietary. The same applies to iOS in general - it is proprietary.
>>
>> Ah, yes, true. FaceTime and iMessage are lacking trust at any level.
>> Thank you for noticing. Same for WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal...
> 
> Signal is Open Source.

Ok, but not fully.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)#Licensing

Signal's servers are partially open source, but the server software's 
anti-spam component is proprietary and closed source due to security 
concerns.[13][191]

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.