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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: ? ? ? Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 08:20:33 +0100 Lines: 74 Message-ID: <l52gkhFt900U1@mid.individual.net> References: <1HWE6H1jV8YTvxfaaL7fnCCcpe8@jntp> <uraf1j$k54i$1@dont-email.me> <l3tl1lF7v86U1@mid.individual.net> <urcb9o$14049$1@dont-email.me> <H8rfjmuhUKt3d2dH4AwyunFLrCQ@jntp> <l4060uFjpt5U1@mid.individual.net> <L_G9QLYwTstxrFecTVopJTtYH98@jntp> <EwNCN.10443611$ee1.4526609@fx16.ams4> <l42p7pF1fdhU1@mid.individual.net> <uriu05$3kjja$1@paganini.bofh.team> <l45ek0Fe0s6U1@mid.individual.net> <urobnk$3v1g$1@dont-email.me> <l4ak2fF7mb7U1@mid.individual.net> <abd1af5f6c6e172db813996bbc8a1fbd@www.novabbs.com> <l4pd6iFh9qrU1@mid.individual.net> <17ba17198d38202d$39429$138080$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <65E8186D.2220@ix.netcom.com> <65E81BB3.3B9B@ix.netcom.com> <65E81EFB.3C55@ix.netcom.com> <l4qmlfFn6jmU1@mid.individual.net> <17ba368e6628ddbc$38447$141478$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <l4t6hpF4bo3U1@mid.individual.net> <17ba8285aef2897a$523$155296$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <l4vv9tFhbj7U1@mid.individual.net> <17babf055ed1f074$1$167876$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net keHXnfClv/e6wmx4DP29AQxEK3lOVusUQ4nbGfM4g38TBfuZsx Cancel-Lock: sha1:NQehTH3g3Sknu6h6up7R/O+ka4w= sha256:2dp1v4woaM66JUOcO13rF0LOgVUzyn6MJkFHcoqVJzo= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <17babf055ed1f074$1$167876$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3887 Am 08.03.2024 um 10:10 schrieb Maciej Wozniak: > W dniu 08.03.2024 o 09:12, Thomas Heger pisze: >> Am 07.03.2024 um 15:41 schrieb Maciej Wozniak: >>> W dniu 07.03.2024 o 07:57, Thomas Heger pisze: >>> >>>>>> The flow of time is assumed to be constant, >>>>> >>>>> Assumed by whom? >>>>> It usually is, but exceptions happen. >>>>> >>>>>> I personally support the idea of local time, which is always flowing >>>>>> forward in the local environment, but which is not universal. >>>>> >>>>> You may support it, it's still stupid. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I needed this assumption (which stems imho from Poincaré) for my >>>> 'book': >>> >>> And GPS staff needed the opposite assumption >>> for their system to work. What do you find >>> more important - your "book" or working >>> GPS? >> >> No, because the GPS does not violate my assumptions. > > Yes, it does. You may pretend it doesn't - it doesn't > impress me the slightest. > > >> >> GPS is pyhsically connected to the Earth, hence 'lives' in the same >> 'time-domain' (uses Earth time). > > What is the range of Earth time, then? If timer is local (opposite to 'universal'), than Earth time is valid on Earth or nearby. In other locations even the direction of time does not need to be the same. This means: there might be regions of the universe, where time runs backwards from our perspective. Such regions are invisible and may eventually drift right through our world and we could not see them. I use the catch phrase 'universe around the corner' for this effect (instead of 'parallel universe'). >> >> But remote celestial object do not necessarily do, and may eventually >> use an axis of time, which has an angle towards our time. > > What kind of object does use time? I regard matter as 'timelike stable patterns'. This includes 'timelike', hence matter is 'frame dependent'. This is a very unusual concept, hence you should read about my idea in my 'book': https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing TH > Does a rock do? What for? >