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On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:27:12 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
> 
>>The fledgling US fought a was to secede from Britain in 1776 and then
>>had another go around in 1812. Britain half-heatedly supported the
>>Confederacy during the Civil War. Both the Germans and Irish have axes
>>to grind with the Brits. Still fools like Wilson and Roosevelt support
>>Britain.
> 
> You think they were fools for supporting Britain?

Yes. Germany got a late start on the industrial revolution due to being a 
fragmented mess. After the unification they were quickly coming up to 
speed and challenging Britain for the markets. This was very similar to 
Japan and China's rise. Britain couldn't abide by the competition. France 
was still butt hurt from losing the Franco-Prussian war. Again it was all 
about European hegemony.

The US should have let them sort it out by themselves. Without US materiel 
and eventually troops Britain and France would have come to terms with the 
new world order.

Wilson was an idealist and when he went to Versailles the Brits and French 
played him like a fiddle. Versailles set the stage for WWII. 

Roosevelt wanted a war and went to great lengths to get it. 'Neutrality' 
was a sham. Without the support it's hard to say what would have happened. 
Hitler saw Britain as a kindred spirit and some Brits were impressed by 
his leadership. He recognized Germany is in a very poor location to be a 
naval power and would have been happy to let Britannia continue to rule 
the sea. 

There have been some interesting fictional accounts of a world where 
Germany won. As is, Britain won the war and lost the Empire.