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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce!
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:27:00 +0100
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On 2024-03-23 02:30:19 +0000, Chris Thompson said:

> Ron Dean wrote:
>> jillery wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:04:32 -0400, Ron Dean
>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> posted yet another self-parody:
>>> 
>>>> jillery wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:37:55 -0400, Ron Dean
>>>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> posted yet another self-parody:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <snip pointless digressions>
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> prove that Life appeared not from
>>>>>>>> non- life which is exactly what a believer would predict.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I suppose, if your "believer" believes the Bible stories of God
>>>>>>> breathing life into dust.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I heard this statement as a child. Not sure where in the Bible it's
>>>>>> found. But you as an atheist naturally would rather die before admitting
>>>>>> there may be a God (designer).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since you mention it:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and
>>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living
>>>>> soul.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Genesis 3:19 for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As someone you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly claim to be
>>>>> an atheist, that I quote the Bible to you raises your words to scorn.
>>>>> 
>>>> Even though I have thought of you as an atheist, This was the only time
>>>> I actually expressed this thought.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Even if your comment above was technically correct, which it isn't,
>>> that you assert the point even once, and without apology, is
>>> sufficient to raise your words to scorn.
>>> 
>>> Worse, you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly conflate
>>> evolutionists and atheists.
>>> 
>>> Worse, you now evade the original point, that Bible believers claim
>>> life comes from non-life.
>>> 
>>> Worse, once again you post a lie trivially proved false:
>>> **********************************
>>> From: Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com>
>>> Newsgroups: talk.origins
>>> Subject: Re: Masterclass
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:28:33 -0500
>>> Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org
>>> Message-ID: <6nOxN.99620$STLe.82442@fx34.iad>
>>> 
>>>> As an atheist, for you to bear false witness against someone has no
>>>> consequence for you.
>>> *************************************
>>> 
>>> Is it your intent to continue to lie for God?  If so, you're doing a
>>> great job.
>>> 
>> I never deliberately lie. I been mistaken, but they were honest mistakes.
> 
> That itself is a lie.
> 
>> 
>> Explain to me what consequences do you think atheist are concerned 
>> with. IOW what was Hitler's, Stalin's or Pol Pot's concern about 
>> consequences of their actions. Remember these men were engaged in 
>> genocide, after they gained the power, each had millions of people 
>> murdered. Do you think either of the 3 gave thought as to the 
>> consequences of such actions for themselves?
>> 
>> I'm just curious.  I'm not suggestion this action would be taken by 
>> another atheist given the power to do so. But what about the mass 
>> murderers in the US in recent years. I also know many serial killers 
>> were raised in religious households. But many turn away from their 
>> religious  roots, but only to return later.
>>> To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
>>> 
>> 
> 
> Did it really escape your notice that Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot 
> amassed armies numbering in the tens of thousands or millions, and in 2 
> cases had their nations fight prolonged wars against people who were 
> trying to force them to account for their actions? In the third case 
> (Stalin) by the time others were ready to force him to account, his 
> nation had grown so powerful that it simply couldn't be done (except 
> retroactively, after he died).
> 
> What am I saying? Of course you're willing to ignore World War 2, and 
> the war between Vietnam and Cambodia. Just like you're willing to 
> ignore every other explanation people have provided you for years. Keep 
> lyin' bro, god loves you for it.

It would be inaccurate to call the later Stalin a Christian, but he was 
brought up in a Christian environment, and at one time trained to 
become a priest.

-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.