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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <l6AmsdDNIllI4cFlM0JWuTI4tjU@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Oh my God! References: <Ev7wMrtKlxguxDn1RDUke8-o3Zo@jntp> <ZoXepwEI4CdYzUI6TGjcOT0vC0Q@jntp> <llpubiFgheaU8@mid.individual.net> <Zq1pHnYCgAwr5qC37tYAjjYmORY@jntp> <c343b16e27e0220d0b586aadaac601bb@www.novabbs.com> <38a724f9aa7028dc455f71fda36abdb8@www.novabbs.com> <ad8212d173bdfb8447f337e7cbc13dda@novabbs.com> <1ea43eb5545f362bbcdb802e857bb126@www.novabbs.com> <ed8708d5473172c7f8fb0799eb5753a1@www.novabbs.com> <a7c57e3f538be43cae943e94dff13256@www.novabbs.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: zUzebWCwIeu7xdh2O_VBJmJgq68 JNTP-ThreadID: _NOMLwbBk0j_174bZ23omUtCEHM JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=l6AmsdDNIllI4cFlM0JWuTI4tjU@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 01 Oct 24 19:11:06 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/129.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-10-01T19:11:06Z/9044305"; posting-account="4@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> Bytes: 3148 Lines: 35 Le 01/10/2024 à 20:47, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit : > On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:55:04 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote: > > And you haven't acknowledged your confusion about what frame > is the "stationary" one in the right and left figures. Just > proclaiming a frame as stationary doesn't make it so, particularly > when you draw its time axis skewed. It is true that this mania for drawing oblique axes with all the possible fancies is absolutely distressing. But that is not the worst. The worst is that they think, probably with conviction, that not only should the world be made as they draw it, but that in addition their stupid lines are very beautiful. We then enter into what future generations will call the relativistic crime, which does not consist in being wrong (everyone has the right to be wrong) but in spitting on Doctor Hachel who had given them everything, from the resolution of the Langevin paradox, to the resolution of the Ehrenfest paradox, including the developed equations of uniformly accelerated frames of reference. That is what is worthy of making one bray like a donkey. I have again shown by two very simple diagrams, here, on September 27 at 5:04 p.m. that it was much more beautiful and especially much more correct to draw horizontal lines of simultaneity. This beauty and this scientific truth seem to hurt the eyes. We have been living in a crazy world since antiquity. R.H.