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From: Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com>
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Subject: Re: Babel
Date: 28 Mar 2024 13:00:38 GMT
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On 2024-03-28, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>
>> On 3/27/2024 5:46 PM, Tim Illingworth wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2024 7:47 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains. Russia has
>>>> been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.
>>>> 
>>>> pt
>>>> 
>>> December 1814 not count?
>>
>> It was certainly an invasion, but 'one' is not 'many'.
>>
>> The point is, Russia has the notion of 'we're
>> going to get invaded again, unless we push out
>> the borders'. The US doesn't - its last mainland
>> invasion was over 200 years ago.
>>
>> Putin, and other Russian propagandists, are fond
>> of saying things like 'Russia has no border', meaning
>> that neighboring states independence is an unfortunate
>> circumstance which needs fixing.
>>
>> Once again, learn about 'Russki Mir'
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_world
>>
>> The only solution I can see is the breakup of Russia.
>
> I listened to a youtube lecture of someone from the finnish military who 
> studieds russia all his life, and he agreed with the deeply rooted 
> paranoia of russia, and that it explains a lot about why they act the way 
> they do.

obSF: _The Moon Goddess and the Sun_, Kingsbury was a 1986 novel that
as one thread had an immersive virtual reality "game" used for
Americans to understand this "deeply rooted paranoia of Russia" and
the related addiction to strong-man dictatorships.

The novel was actually a very good collection of ideas for the time, a
Favorite bookcase book, that failed as a novel, IMO, due to its
lack of coherence.  It was an expansion of an earlier Hugo nominated
novella and added more neat ideas but lost its plot focus.

Kingsbury didn't write much but he had nice fresh ideas.

Chris