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From: ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
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Subject: Re: Babel
Date: 28 Mar 2024 13:51:39 GMT
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In article <l6l7vlFn3uoU1@mid.individual.net>,
Chris Buckley  <alan@sabir.com> wrote:
>On 2024-03-28, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/2024 5:46 PM, Tim Illingworth wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2024 7:47 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains. Russia has
>>>>> been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> pt
>>>>> 
>>>> December 1814 not count?
>>>
>>> It was certainly an invasion, but 'one' is not 'many'.
>>>
>>> The point is, Russia has the notion of 'we're
>>> going to get invaded again, unless we push out
>>> the borders'. The US doesn't - its last mainland
>>> invasion was over 200 years ago.
>>>
>>> Putin, and other Russian propagandists, are fond
>>> of saying things like 'Russia has no border', meaning
>>> that neighboring states independence is an unfortunate
>>> circumstance which needs fixing.
>>>
>>> Once again, learn about 'Russki Mir'
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_world
>>>
>>> The only solution I can see is the breakup of Russia.
>>
>> I listened to a youtube lecture of someone from the finnish military who 
>> studieds russia all his life, and he agreed with the deeply rooted 
>> paranoia of russia, and that it explains a lot about why they act the way 
>> they do.
>
>obSF: _The Moon Goddess and the Sun_, Kingsbury was a 1986 novel that
>as one thread had an immersive virtual reality "game" used for
>Americans to understand this "deeply rooted paranoia of Russia" and
>the related addiction to strong-man dictatorships.
>
>The novel was actually a very good collection of ideas for the time, a
>Favorite bookcase book, that failed as a novel, IMO, due to its
>lack of coherence.  It was an expansion of an earlier Hugo nominated
>novella and added more neat ideas but lost its plot focus.
>
>Kingsbury didn't write much but he had nice fresh ideas.
>
>Chris

This might be the Finnish briefing from above; I found it very interesting:

https://ricochet.com/1214468/finnish-intelligence-officer-explains-the-russian-mindset/

I think Kingsbury's _Courtship Rite_ is a great book, but it seems to be
almost forgotten now.
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