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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 10:57:44 +0200 Lines: 46 Message-ID: <l7pmlcF86tkU1@mid.individual.net> References: <3pqdnTzZ85-dG2X4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <l6kfnuFjqknU1@mid.individual.net> <uu32p3$3ddn0$2@dont-email.me> <l6n9udF2ac2U1@mid.individual.net> <3%vNN.18429568$ee1.7376856@fx16.ams4> <17c135b757eb2a02$934243$163722$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <l6ptnhFee5eU1@mid.individual.net> <uu9je5$14o7k$1@dont-email.me> <l6se1pFpvelU1@mid.individual.net> <uub83k$1k226$1@dont-email.me> <l79nppFq93mU1@mid.individual.net> <uuoc92$191kf$1@dont-email.me> <l7k68tFdc15U1@mid.individual.net> <uv4hhn$gafg$6@dont-email.me> <l7mkn3Fo5f0U1@mid.individual.net> <Hth0_uEjY9-2dTDy92yn7g6IPl4@jntp> <1qrsve6.89zgre180uf00N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net Zu1+ACEMQUCR4wW1vQuPxgWXPcZS+AiEGzTyf+OIQW4E63KPHA Cancel-Lock: sha1:itrxMlq8MNnrng09K1buBTIFvjE= sha256:IruhrCclIKjMBZuS5Ci6KR9wgRvdvE6msilX5VHGllE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: <1qrsve6.89zgre180uf00N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> Bytes: 2848 Am 10.04.2024 um 15:30 schrieb J. J. Lodder: >>>> >>>> Also, perhaps our current state of the art technology wrt observing the >>>> universe from our little earth is damn near pre embryonic wrt the grand >>>> scheme of things... ;^) >>>> >>> >>> Usual observations from our perspective of the universe would require to >>> remove the effects of the delay, which is caused by the finite speed of >>> light. >>> >>> But this is not done. >> >> Of course it is done!!! >> >> You have definitely never read any paper about astronomy, or the history >> of astronomy. As a matter of fact one of the main issue in astronomy is >> to determine the distance of objects as precisely as possible. >> >> Thomas, why are you constantly making up stuff of that kind? Is it malice >> or stupidity? >> >> Both? > > Hanlon's razor applies, I think. > > And for amusement: noting different delays of quasar fluctuations, > in passing through an Einstein lens, is a practical way > of establishing their cosmological distance, Sure, the delay is known. But how would you remove it? The difference in time is actually HUGE, hence you would need to wait a VERY long time, if you want to know the present position of stars seen a few billion light years away. In the meantime cosmologists explain the positions of stars, which do not belong to the same time. TH