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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Ultra Wide Band? Date: 25 Apr 2024 04:23:00 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 57 Message-ID: <l8u454Fpb4qU1@mid.individual.net> References: <uvukg7$36flq$1@dont-email.me> <wyOUN.48387$cMe1.5047@fx10.iad> <v01gpu$3tdac$2@dont-email.me> <l8ktg0Fd3srU2@mid.individual.net> <v03llk$aoun$1@solani.org> <l8lmn2Fgo9gU2@mid.individual.net> <v04ens$8jmp$1@solani.org> <l8m2d1Fie62U1@mid.individual.net> <v04ld2$b72l$1@solani.org> <l8neucFp286U1@mid.individual.net> <v06p45$c8vs$1@solani.org> <l8o84nFsntfU1@mid.individual.net> <v08oo3$b6s8$1@solani.org> <l8r433FbgcmU1@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 5Jy1rtzkIF6wPoCdsPzPtAhStWDKHNA7pnCXWvElrJIuZHHqVu Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wb4ACt9Zk2rfBaF/ZZObSiybN5o= sha256:9omizkepsCOlB1lRTjf/rjX6QnCYogKB9PeAli9i9yY= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1<n@LQ!aZ7vLO_nWbK~@T'XIS0,oAJcU.qLM dk/j8Udo?O"o9B9Jyx+ez2:B<nx(k3EdHnTvB]'eoVaR495,Rv~/vPa[e^JI+^h5Zk*i`Q;ezqDW< ZFs6kmAJWZjOH\8[$$7jm,Ogw3C_%QM'|H6nygNGhhl+@}n30Nz(^vWo@h>Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Bytes: 4432 On 2024-04-24, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2024-04-23, Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> wrote: >> On 22 Apr 2024 22:54:15 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >>>> Open your eyes this time. >>> >>> Unlike you, my eyes are wide open. >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/uwb-new-wireless-technology-could-nightmare-privacy-alexander-leschik >> "it is important to be aware of the potential privacy implications of UWB" > > "Potential". Show the proof that anyone can track all iPhones in their > vicinity through UWB, please. > >> https://medium.com/@orlandonhoward/the-silent-advent-of-uwb-technology-and-its-implications-for-privacy-6114fb2da0d3 >> "The proliferation of UWB in cell phones enables scenarios where the >> locations and movements of every person with a UWB device can be precisely >> tracked with UWB sensors mounted in inconspicuous places." > > From the same article: > > "Apple perceived the privacy threats of its AirTags and implemented > several measures to prevent stalking using the tags. They “have unique > Bluetooth identifiers that frequently rotate to ensure you’re not > tracked from place to place.” Location data and history are also not > stored on the devices. They’re linked to a person’s Apple ID that > no one else can track." > > No reason to believe Apple isn't doing the same with all of their > UWB-enabled devices. > >> https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2019/12/21/every-move-you-make-ill-be-watching-you-privacy-implications-of-the-apple-u1-chip-and-ultra-wideband/ >> "What makes the current generation of UWB chips stand out is that for the >> first time they will be deployed in mobile phones, which for a lot of >> people is an inseparable part of their daily routine. While it is promoted >> by Apple as just another sensor to "Share. Find. Play. More precisely than >> ever," this technology has the power to disrupt existing societal norms. >> Suddenly businesses will be able to track an individual's location within >> their stores down to the centimeter, which gives them the power to track >> which products you look at in real-time. Similar to the debated facial >> recognition technology, UWB localization offers a new capability to capture >> and ultimately profile identities of a user. Essentially, the new chip is a >> marketer's dream in a box. Shops already track your purchases, leading to >> cases like the infamous 2012 case where Target unintentionally divulged a >> teen's pregnancy to her father. When a store has UWB-enabled access points, >> it will be easy to monitor a phone's location indoors and track what you >> considered purchasing in addition to what you actually purchase." > > That's a lot of conjecture. Where's the evidence of these claims? ....crickets... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR