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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF? Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:33:54 +0200 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <l9boniFqrkeU1@mid.individual.net> References: <g5udnXdFRadBELT7nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com> <l99k2aFgv11U1@mid.individual.net> <GFCdnY2VDdebra37nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net RQrD+4e2MZlrfp1DA/BsgQhN7Inzz0yBxYHHpzGbCRzakxVuAK Cancel-Lock: sha1:sKrirof7rjd8H19sAw/iw9F3IQE= sha256:lPQ3plLwwA6C0AK9nrMbpMjGycQfY9jdJxwky4BR4hA= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <GFCdnY2VDdebra37nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> Bytes: 2462 bad sector, 2024-04-30 01:40: > On 4/29/24 09:02, Arno Welzel wrote: >> bad sector, 2024-04-25 00:55: >> >>> The net is full of people having issues with phones they only thought >>> were OFF. My android Zflip is even worse that a simple conventional >>> design. Most times I turn it OFF/ON to be sure, there being no obvious, >>> bulletproof, always in your face, indication which should be a prerequisite. >> >> Well - as long as you did not explicitely did POWER OFF the phone it is >> not turned off. And "power off" means you press and HOLD the power >> button until a menu appears where you can select to POWER OFF the >> device. Just turning the display off by pressing the power buttons >> briefly is not enough of course. > > > There has been a bit of misunderstanding since my OP in which I raised > two issues. When I said "they only thought were OFF" I obviously meant > 'on-hook' although an unwanted power-on state could in and of itself > also kill you in the wrong situation. After that MY workaround of > powering off TO ASSURE THAT IT IS ON-HOOK clouded the issue I think, but > both issues remain IMO extremely important all the time. I see - you refer to the question if there is a phone call still active or unintentially started. Yes, unfortunately, smartphones usually don't have dedicated "hang up" keys any longer except special models intended to be used by older or disabled people. However, when the phone app is still in an active call you should usually also see a notification about this at the top of the screen. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de