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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:13:33 +0000 Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (doubling-spaces) Newsgroups: sci.math References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <40ac3ed2-5648-48c0-ac8f-61bdfd1c1e20@att.net> <vgg57o$25ovs$2@dont-email.me> <71fea361-0069-4a98-89a4-6de2eef62c5e@att.net> <vggh9v$27rg8$3@dont-email.me> <ff2c4d7c-33b4-4aad-a6b2-88799097b86b@att.net> <vghuoc$2j3sg$1@dont-email.me> <d79e791d-d670-4a5a-bd26-fdf72bcde6bc@att.net> <vgj4lk$2ova9$3@dont-email.me> <f154138e-4482-4267-9332-151e2fd9f1ba@att.net> <vgkoi7$b5pp$1@solani.org> <6d9f3b10-47ad-459c-9536-098ce91f514b@att.net> <vgni02$3osmc$1@dont-email.me> <16028da0-456b-47ad-8baa-7982a7cbdf10@att.net> <vgpupb$abrr$2@dont-email.me> <vgr5fo$i3h7$2@dont-email.me> <vgsh2q$t7fk$2@dont-email.me> <6cba8e3a-03b3-4a7b-9f0f-bd6c3f282080@att.net> <vuudnd3N5rHQya_6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <sFidna5nJLTKyK_6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <a4552de3-bc31-4713-88fa-4a6586b90805@att.net> <OOSdnahYzp3E7a_6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <EtGdnXXmVtiZDq76nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <35237069-8224-4bc8-835a-9d47b1edff3f@att.net> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 15:13:23 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35237069-8224-4bc8-835a-9d47b1edff3f@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <laednbB1xs-AfK76nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 96 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-pVCDQwQ/EM0C3WecLLqOLKaLat9ukr4vKCdCVVJIe79/3OvbF1hYqdU9VvKJAswtVNm9ScfGlmAdhrU!oQgvrnm6pKooxaMQt5ter7lJ/H8e3SueDB4BLcApMpmpI4mLrKlcRO2gssWoBHzCIbXAHIQK1BPS X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4825 On 11/12/2024 01:36 PM, Jim Burns wrote: > On 11/12/2024 12:40 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 11/11/2024 12:59 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> On 11/11/2024 12:09 PM, Jim Burns wrote: >>>> On 11/11/2024 2:04 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>> On 11/11/2024 11:00 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>> On 11/11/2024 10:38 AM, Jim Burns wrote: > >>>>>>> Our sets do not change. >>>>>>> Everybody who believes that >>>>>>> intervals could grow in length or number >>>>>>> is deeply mistaken about >>>>>>> what our whole project is. >>>>>> >>>>>> How about Banach-Tarski equi-decomposability? >>>> >>>> The parts do not change. > >>> any manner of partitioning said ball or its decomposition, >>> would result in whatever re-composition, >>> a volume, the same. > >> So, do you reject the existence of these? > > No. > > What I mean by "The parts do not change" might be > too.obvious for you to think useful.to.state. > Keep in mind with whom I am primarily in discussion. > I am of the strong opinion that > "too obvious" is not possible, here. > > Finitely.many pieces of the ball.before are > associated.by.rigid.rotations.and.translations to > finitely.many pieces of two same.volumed balls.after. > > They are associated pieces. > They are not the same pieces. > > Galileo found it paradoxical that > each natural number can be associated with > its square, which is also a natural number. > But 137 is associated with 137² > 137 isn't 137² > > I don't mean anything more than that. > I hope you agree. > >> Mathematics doesn't, .... > > Mathematics thinks 137 ≠ 137² > > 1 = 1^2 0 = 0^2 2 + 2 = 2^2 1 + 1 =/= 1^2 1/phi = phi - 1 The doubling-spaces and doubling-measures are a feature of quasi-invariant measure theory with regards to the mathematical act of individuation of a continuum. With regards to the mathematical act: a mathematical fact. Then, many would rather have that they don't need your "pro-tection", and that it gives higher thoughts short-shrift. The densities of the integers and rationals, or integers and squares, or about the square-free numbers, or about the primes, have distinct expressions. In the real values, .... It's much appreciated a _usual_ "mathematical conscience", and a thoroughly contemplative and deliberative addressal of the import, and, limitations, of plain "non-self-contradictory, inductive inference. Then here the differences in "unboundedness" and "density", do have that "density" remains defined, including in the unbounded. Also it's a size relation. Good luck and warm regards kind sirs