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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: IR detector system, biasing of photo diode Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 10:56:42 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <lavshjp01vaaetl7pdhdapdkm0hl1mt2uo@4ax.com> References: <vfk0u0$3u9en$1@dont-email.me> <vfkvko$1fa51$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 18:56:45 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="182e38949987c0037a44e541f2cdac84"; logging-data="581033"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+bKWIEYtKeYcnFhXVhbofl" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:oprBsBciWdd8ulf7CZB/UDqs1uM= Bytes: 2745 On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 09:03:20 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Oct 2024 02:19:14 +0200) it happened Klaus Vestergaard >Kragelund <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote in <vfk0u0$3u9en$1@dont-email.me>: > >>Hi >> >>I am working on an IR detector that will guide a robot into a docking >>station. >> >>A IR transmitter on the docking station transmits a beam, and 2 IR >>detectors on the robot detects the beam and lets the robot navigate >>towards the target. The working distance is a couple of meters. >> >>I need it to be insensitive to ambient light/sunlight. > > >I use a cheap camera module to track a light source in H and V direction, and just a simple Microchip PIC : for processing >It can, with some added code, track object forms too, like a cross or maybe a big character. > panteltje.nl/pub/horizontal_IR_target_tracking_4686.avi >those camara modulea are IR sensitive to some extend, sometimes you can remove the IR filter from such modules. >It may be a bit of overkill for your application, but OTOH it can do a lot more. >Mainly designed to detect and follow jet exhaust.. >You could uee utrasonics too, maybe even simpler, no sun problem, like a bat. >Cheap electret mikes? or modify some ebay 1 dolalr distance sensors... >can be used for anti-collision too. > > Right. A sonic scheme could measure the phase between two mikes to determine the direction of the source with high resolution. That could be an analog multiplier or a bit of code. The amplitudes would be useful too. One could compute direction, distance, and velocity almost for free. No problem with sunlight! Cheap electret mikes have gain inside, a jfet or an IC, so there would be lots of signal to go straight into a uP ADC pin.