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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:13:09 +0100
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On 2024-03-13 21:00, Chris wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-13 09:11, Chris wrote:
>>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> On 10.03.24 10:44, Bob Henson wrote:
>>>>> Newyana2 wrote:
>>>>>> At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture
>>>>>> ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and
>>>>>> access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice
>>>>>> message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of
>>>>>> proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and
>>>>>> wired to -- a physical address.
>>>>>
>>>>> They will struggle in the UK soon, then. All landlines disappear by the end
>>>>> of 2025  - there will only be VoIP.
>>>>
>>>> Hardly ever read so much nonsense. We know Newyana does not have a cell
>>>> phone but he or she wants to have a big mouth in technical groups
>>>> discussing mobile technology.
>>>>
>>>> For you: IP-telephone lines are landlines. Landlines are not what you
>>>> think they are. The backend is even in the UK ip-based for years.
>>>
>>> Do you have evidence for that? It's true that UK telephony has been digital
>>> for a long time within the BT network, but that doesn't mean it's
>>> internet/ip-based.
>>
>> I don't know about UK, but here in Spain all clients on fibre have a
>> VoIP system, hidden. At the home, there is a device called ONT (Optical
>> network terminal), which can be integrated on the router, that converts
>> the phone over IP signals to an RJ-11 where we connect our traditional
>> phone terminals.
>>
>> In fact, companies hide the VoIP credentials so that connecting a VoIP
>> phone instead is not trivial.
>>
>> The stated goal is to remove all copper exchanges, migrating everybody
>> to fibre (or some form of radio). The buildings can then be sold, they
>> are in the city centres and are worth a packet.
>>
>> My understanding is that the UK is doing more or less the same, and many
>> countries are on the same road. Which means that a lot of the current
>> phone network is no longer circuit switched.
> 
> I'm aware of that, but that's the recent (domestic) move away from copper
> lines and VOIP.
> 
> Jörg's comment was about the backhaul being ip-based for a much longer
> period.

It is so in his country, to my understanding.

The Swiss I know have a tendency to think that the changes applied in 
their country have also been applied elsewhere :-D

Like no TV over the air.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.