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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: the future long term financial apocalypse of the USA Date: 28 May 2024 20:27:09 GMT Lines: 49 Message-ID: <lbmt0tF7tleU1@mid.individual.net> References: <v1loc6$1gcqh$2@dont-email.me> <650000a4-90cd-67d1-66ac-c6f0f5a5c9a7@example.net> <v34o3q$seb$1@panix2.panix.com> <v34r91$on2$1@reader1.panix.com> X-Trace: individual.net PsbIiwg8+/9hv72wUoIXAQ2rqKDr6cpjHlXB2YiwcLcgytoq/C Cancel-Lock: sha1:W8vt7PJIENIrGma1Rk/3EdwjhgQ= sha256:6rXL8VPNLigZPs3zzIVid9GUS3lTkMKVrdd+IxuNMng= User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Bytes: 2904 On 2024-05-28, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote: > In article <v34o3q$seb$1@panix2.panix.com>, > Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote: >>D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>Well, I do like Rands Atlas Shrugged and We the living, but that is of >>>course not SF. >> >>I'd call Atlas Shrugged more fantasy than SF, but the deus ex machina of >>the free power technology has some SF elements. I have to admit that I >>liked the book even though it was totally unrealistic. However, it has a >>bad reputation because of the number of people who believe it could come >>true and that miraculous technologies just drop from the sky. >> >>Although, now that I think about it, I think that for most people, they >>have the general perception that miraculous technologies DO drop from the >>sky because they never see the enormous effort in developing them and only >>see them when they arrive complete and functional on the market. >> >>>In terms of SF, Neal Stephenson I appreciate, the early stuff, and >>>Heinlein as well. The moon is a harsh mistress is good. >>> >>>Ohh... and then there was another one... Poul Andersons Nicholas van Rijn >>>books, those are quite nice as well. =) >>> >>>Anything else, based on that, you could recommend? >> >>Ever read the Gateway series by Pohl? > > Kritzer's Liberty's Child is about a teen who lives in a utopian > libertarian seastead. > > Marcia Martin and Eric Vinicoff's The Weigher details first contact > between humans and some obligately libertarian aliens. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Prometheus awards, honoring libertarian science fiction. https://www.lfs.org/awards.shtml They have 2 awards yearly since about 1980; one for the current year and one for all-time Hall of Fame. The current year award is somewhat uneven. I've only read about half of them, and there's only one strong Favorite bookcase among them (_A Deepness in the Sky_) though several near-Favorites. The Hall of Fame winners are much stronger. I've read a vast majority, with at least 10 solid Favorites and many other good books. Chris