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Path: ...!news.misty.com!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Maya Angelou died (28-5-2014) Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 10:13:04 +0200 Lines: 51 Message-ID: <lc03ggF34iuU1@mid.individual.net> References: <v371qi$140e7$1@dont-email.me> <lbqogiF97adU1@mid.individual.net> <v39pts$1m99d$1@dont-email.me> <lbroopFds9gU1@mid.individual.net> <lbrq1tFe1kfU1@mid.individual.net> <slrnv5hid7.17v1.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <lbtdpbFlckhU1@mid.individual.net> <lbu6mmFp0flU1@mid.individual.net> <87ttidg07m.fsf@parhasard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net kJtAljA7tx+mPsfG8zXEeweNTgqQeHQbyOIBJj6cQhQG+KrdLg Cancel-Lock: sha1:3RtNZqFXDK6jMhRCHJQrD7m4Sw4= sha256:7R4OQTsKAx83mMIJP89LJGs3rQSLpMI/gduH/uCGXlA= User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Bytes: 2912 On 2024-05-31 21:06:53 +0000, Aidan Kehoe said: > Ar an t-aonú lá is triochad de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Athel Cornish-Bowden: > > > On 2024-05-31 07:50:03 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said: > > > > > On 2024-05-30 18:47:03 +0000, Christian Weisgerber said: > > > > > >> On 2024-05-30, Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>>> No. "Cornish" is not a Cornish name: what would be the point of callig > > >>>> someone Cornish if everyone around is Cornish. The name is much more > > >>>> common in Devon, just as "Devenish" is more common in Somerset than it > > >>>> is in Devon. > > >>> > > >>> I used to know María Teresa Miras Portugal (until she died): she was > > >>> Spanish, not Portuguese. > > >> > > >> Actress Cécile de France is Belgian. > > > > > > Indeed. I didn't think of her, but I knew she was Belgian. > > > > An even more prominent example is François Hollande: he is not Dutch, but is > > French. > > Ian Fleming was also British, not from Flanders. > > Ian Paisley was (and Ian Óg Paisley is) not from Paisley. > > George C. Scott was from West Virginia, not Scotland. > > Neither the actor James Franco nor the deceased caudillo of Spain have any > immediate family background in Franconia, nor even France. > > Percy French, Irish songwriter, was not French by nationality. > > Counterexample; Charles de Gaulle was French, but his name was Dutch. > > Complication; Chester Nimitz was of recent German descent, but had US > nationality; his family name is of Slavic origin but designates a German. > > I’m sure I could (and we could) keep going with these! As a possible counterexample, what about Deutsch and Deutscher, which seem to be reasonably common surnames in Germany? -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly in England until 1987.