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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Hans Bachner <hans@bachner.priv.at> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: System UICs Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 11:20:34 +0200 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <lcg1n2Fm6huU1@mid.individual.net> References: <v3trgb$1t2fv$4@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net fT8Yu9+47mrXk5rphuwHfg5ynepRjugsd+MIdQSQcxP9EGm4I= Cancel-Lock: sha1:20di6NKfYe2Xj+ZZwvnzXvYSDss= sha256:P7yTkdeDJnu+LejxwJQG/0gvyGroeTdZBNrN3l1Pq9Q= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: de-AT In-Reply-To: <v3trgb$1t2fv$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 1956 Lawrence D'Oliveiro schrieb am 07.06.2024 um 04:32: > As I recall, on VMS, SYSPRV privilege was effectively granted to any > process whose UIC was in a “system” group. By default this was all UICs > from [1,*] to [10,*] (octal), but I recall docs saying the upper limit was > configurable. SYSGEN> help sys_para maxsysgroup Sys_Parameters MAXSYSGROUP MAXSYSGROUP sets the highest value that a group number can have and still be classified as a system UIC group number. Note that the specification is not in octal unless preceded by the %O radix indicator. This parameter is normally left at 8 (10 octal). MAXSYSGROUP is a DYNAMIC parameter. > I also recall that, when you woke up the login prompt, the LOGINOUT > process was created running under UIC [10,40]. I wonder if this was chosen > to ensure that sysadmins would never lower the upper bound below 10 octal, > they could only raise it? Did the UIC [10,40] have any other significance? > Perhaps something from RSX-11 days? Here, LOGINOUT is running under [1,4] (usually assigned to the SYSTEM account). Hans.