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From: Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
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Subject: Re: Why do so many people confuse Google's Firebase (cloud API) with
 Google Services Google Firebase App Indexing (search results)?
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 23:19:20 +0200
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Andrew, 2024-06-23 19:41:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Sun, 23 Jun 2024 16:41:10 +0200 :
> 
>>> The question I asked is a very difficult question to answer.
>>
>> No, it's quite simple:
>>
>> "Firebase" is a mostly cloud based platform with a number of services
>> provided by Google: messaging, storage, usage analytics, indexing and so on.
>>
>> "Firebase App Indexing" is one single feature of that and not a separate
>> product.
> 
> Thanks again for hazarding a guess as I know how rough Usenet is to people
> who make guesses - rightly or wrongly so - where I'm only trying to nail
> down what the difference is between what Google calls
> a. Firebase App Indexing (on-device search data + uploaded statistics)
> b. Firebase (where Firebase is only the back end to Google Cloud)

What do you mean with "hazarding a guess"?

Just *read* the documentation instead of "guessing" things:

<https://firebase.google.com/?hl=en>
<https://firebase.google.com/docs/app-indexing?hl=en>

[...]
>>> Given my Samsung Galaxy A32-5G baseband is unrootable, I'm forced to use
>>> some version of Android so I'm stuck using Google products de jure.
>>
>> No, you can just buy a different device.
> 
> While I'm rather familiar with the concept of telling people if they don't
> like living in the United States, they should just go back to where they
> came from, that's an historic Germanic attitude that I don't harbor,
> despite the fact I was born to a German-born father & mother in the USA.

Oh my... :-(

Did anyone forced you to purchase a Samsung Galaxy A32-5G and does not
allow you to get any other device ever?

> I would rather simply try to understand the differences between these three
> sets of API's from Google that developers can link into their apps.

Then learn how to develop apps, really.

> 1. GSF => APIs for apps to link into Google Backup, Play Store Services,  
>           Contacts Sync, and Account Management (plus location services
>           I think, which is why so many apps now require "precise location"
>           even though they have no need for it - because Google made the 
>           option for location services w/o Wi-Fi removed from the API!)

Correct - GSF, "Google Services Framework" gives apps access to Google
Play Services and some services

> 2. GMS => APIs for Gmail, Chrome, Google+, Google Maps & Youtube.

Correct - GMS, "Google Mobile Services" are mostly all the services
Google provides even without Android.

> 3. Firebase => APIs for Cloud stuff + completely separate search stuff

Correct - but "Firebase" also contains "Firebase App Indexing" and
"Firebase App Indexing" is *not* a separate product besides Firebase.

-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de