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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: OT: EV Charging Stations Stripped of Copper Cables Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:32:28 +0100 Organization: At Home Lines: 39 Message-ID: <leof6sFkf65U2@mid.individual.net> References: <v64kvk$2cc3j$2@dont-email.me> <v65u3l$2nm1f$1@dont-email.me> <v660hd$2o8ke$1@dont-email.me> <v66hjn$2r14r$1@dont-email.me> <v66p76$2s9o8$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: news@admac.myzen.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net Ul0vSBzZOPLS9btoE2DWxgxn0rfPL0O1v7vLB45btwebEjE6kt Cancel-Lock: sha1:OUOBrdlkP8eskEjMsltFfnb0Zks= sha256:uifuYFfnGHCcCmqTYqRp+Xtoo6Du7QOG54hVjcGXe1A= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <v66p76$2s9o8$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2888 On 04/07/2024 19:21, RJH wrote: > Interesting (to me) that the UK's consumption has gone *down* about 20% over > the past 50 years. Note I'm talking about the UK - the figures from that link > suggest that consumption and (not surprisingly) generation have been going > down for quite a while. Meanwhile, China has trebled, and India has doubled, > in the past 20 years. Possibly because of the UK having less heavy industry and importing our products that rely on heavy energy usage from China or the far east etc. Industries that were once heavy users of electricity probably had contractual agreements stating that it wouldn't be used in peak domestic times. >> shows the annual rate of growth of generating capacity has been up to 6% >> per year (though it been has closer to 2.5% per year recently), and if >> we spread that 30% rise over six year it is 4.5% per year, which is >> clearly practicable. >> Cars and trucks don't get replaced every year. We aren't all going to go >> over to electric vehicles fast enough to create any kind of insoluble >> problem. Is that 30% in the past 6 years mainly due to the installation of more wind turbines which produce little when the wind barely blows for periods of weeks? Possibly also solar which produces little during the winter and nothing at night. Has there been a corresponding 30% increase in the backup capacity to fill the shortfall when wind fails? If the two are not matched then it's rather silly to rely only on extra intermittent power generation, especially during a cold winter. Although unlikely to happen within the timescales the green lobby would like there is also the move away from gas and oil to electric for central heating that will increase demand for electricity. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk