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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 08:39:01 -0400
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 07:56:30 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 6/5/2025 12:15 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 6/4/2025 7:43 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:27:52 +0200, Rolf Mantel 
>>>> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 11:52 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:23:34 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen 
>>>>>>> <beej@beej.us>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <d3vu3k5sec04fbqhmm6sjdktd2t9t5v81r@4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>> Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any 
>>>>>>>>> crimes, so
>>>>>>>>> you needn't worry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed 
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the 
>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>> illegally and then ship you off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the
>>>>>>>> country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> get a hearing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to
>>>>>>>> waive this right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> US citizens should indeed get a hearing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a 
>>>>>> hearing to
>>>>>> verify whether they are indeed US citizens?
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>
>>>> So you claim to be a US citizen, the government claim you're not.
>>>> Should you get a hearing or should the government deport you without a
>>>> hearing?
>>>
>>> Good grief...   I'm not going to respond to your hypothetical question
>>> about something that's not going to happen.
>> 
>> ... if you're white enough!
>
>Or not:
>
>Fabian Schmidt, German citizen, electrical engineer living in the US 
>since 2008, and with a green card since 2015. Detained by ICE at Logan 
>Airport in Boston then held in ICE detention centers for two months. Why?
>
>https://www.newsweek.com/green-card-fabian-schmidt-holder-detained-ice-immigratioon-2072698
>
>While living in California:
>
>"a 2016 drug-related offense in California that was eventually dismissed 
>and a DUI from the same year that led to fines and a probation sentence."
>
>In other words, he was charged, and paid the penalties. But then:
>"He alleged that authorities conducted a strip search, confiscated his 
>smartwatch, and refused to let him contact a lawyer, the German 
>consulate or his family."
>
>"A few days after being detained, Schmidt said he was transported in 
>shackles to the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility in Rhode Island.... 
>After nearly two months in detention, Schmidt received word that he 
>would be released."
>
>Another stellar case of the trump administration rooting out the worst 
>of the worst.

Another case of tempest in a teapot?

--
C'est bon
Soloman