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From: Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
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Subject: Re: Google is preparing to replace RCS with MLS
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 16:38:08 +0200
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Andrew, 2024-07-15 15:03:

> Arno Welzel wrote on Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:25:21 +0200 :
> 
>>> You live in abject fear of every person around you, whether that's your
>>> wife, your kids, your own mom, your friends and neighbors; I don't.
>>
>> It also has nothing to do with "fear". Certain companies *REQUIRE* that
>> you protect your data, otherwise you *MUST* *NOT* work for them since
>> you show clear ignorance of best practices to protect data.
> 
> Hi Arno,
> 
> There is a lot to this story where I brought up the slums and being in
> abject fear of your own wife & kids & neighbors as a philosophical point.
> 
> If you set up a phone properly, you do not need to lock that phone down.

A "proper setup" *is* locking it down by at least using a screen pattern
or PIN to protect it.

> It's only people who don't understand computers who lock personal phones.

I also lock my computers - without usernamen/password none of my
computers can be used. And I've been working as software developer,
network administrator and team lead in the IT industry for 30 years now.

> We're going to have to understand that I had already stated that I wasn't
> talking about a corporate device but about a typical personal use device.

Also for personal use devices I prefer to have at least basic protection.

> Also, we have to understand Carlos and others were completely ignorant that
> an Android phone works perfectly fine without any login/password.

Only, if you do not use apps which *require* login/password - for
example for Google Pay you *must* enable some kind of lock screen. Also
for some bankinkg apps you *must* enable a lock screen.

> It turns out that Carlos has absolutely no understanding of how phones work
> in that there is no Internet server login/password required for texting
> despite the fact he repeatedly insisted Internet is required for texting.

Yes, if you defined "texting" as "using SMS". Even RCS already requires
internet.

> It's not.
> Android texting works fine without any connection to the Internet.

No, only SMS works fine without any connection to the internet. And this
has nothing to do with "Android" but is a service in mobile networks.

However "Android texting" may not only be SMS.

[...]
> We have to understand that a well set up device has no personal data
> accessible to anyone - even the purse snatcher who lives in your house.

"Well set up" means with lock screen enabled. Otherwise this is only
true if you do not store *any* personal data on it, even no phone numbers.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de