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From: Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com>
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Subject: Re: Just Another Necessary Reminder That Valve Promotes Underage Gambling
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:29:15 -0500
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JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>On 31/12/2024 14:11, Xocyll wrote:
>>> Did you see the part where the guy bought a Steam Deck without ever
>>> leaving Steam? It may be a loophole that games are not physical purchased
>>> goods (technically you are purchasing a license), but that Deck may be a
>>> real problem for Valve if they continue to let it be bought in that way.
>>> It's real. It can be sold for real money. No need to regulate anyone. A
>>> 12 yo can sell a Deck.
>>>
>>> That kid just cashed out. Virtual currency for real product, giving the
>>> virutal currency value, which means you're spinning an RNG for some kind
>>> of random compensation. Since letting people cash out is what apparently
>>> defines gambling, I think Gabe may have f-ed up with his shell game.
>> I just watched the video, and my god this guy is full of shit.
>> 
>> He doesn't believe Valve can't shut down offshore gambling sites that
>> are not subject to US Laws.
>> 
>> The US gov't can't shut down offshore revenge porn sites, etc, because
>> they have no legal jurisdiction, but Valve magically can, according to
>> this guy, what utter horse shit.
>> 
>> They're a fucking gaming company, they can send a cease and desist
>> order,but that's going to mean jack and shit to some Chechen hosted
>> website.   All kinds of grey countries willing to sell service to
>> dirtbags.
>
>I haven't watched the video but the idea that Valve can just shutdown 
>websites because it feels like it is as you say totally wrong. Even 
>governments have problems doing that unless you go down the route of 
>Russia, China or even N Korea. Solutions really need to proportionate to 
>the problem they are trying to solve. It reminds of people on the World 
>of Tanks forums who'd say that Wargaming should shut-down websites 
>offering boosting services without been able to emplain on what legal 
>grounds they could do that.
>
>Now that's not to say that Valve can't do anything at all. So for 
>example get rid of paid lootboxes (I think even if skin betting etc. 
>wasn't a thing they should still do this) and just make it so all the 
>items can be individual bought within the Steam eco-system and just to 
>make sure, you can't sell them in the Steam Marketplace.

The whole thing was about skins in CS:GO, which is an 18+ rated game, so
how are the underaged kids playing it - by lying to Valve about their
age.    

Where are their parents, that should be monitoring what junior is doing
online?

There's a lot of blame being aimed at Valve, but the "poor innocent
kiddies being taken advantage of" aren't even allowed to play it, and
could not download it unless they made a account with a fake age on it.

So much for innocent.

Xocyll