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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Apple accused of underreporting suspected CSAM on its platforms Date: 23 Jul 2024 17:52:47 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 52 Message-ID: <lga8vfF8qq0U3@mid.individual.net> References: <v7mup4$7vpf$1@solani.org> <lg8ea1Fa94U1@mid.individual.net> <xn0oonlp4azqw16000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <lga2k1F7uk8U1@mid.individual.net> <xn0oonrftb7hazk002@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v7olut$19iie$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net IEGKkNOSS079tUurnPoqrgKFj7dQaqC7o6Dhzur5MrctXU7RML Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tw5UjtmOEMKzifkDfuQL+RCn27Q= sha256:ggi+CFseR4U32XYk9jYLysEiBRaPxdgYRvoZrh4vcvU= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1<n@LQ!aZ7vLO_nWbK~@T'XIS0,oAJcU.qLM dk/j8Udo?O"o9B9Jyx+ez2:B<nx(k3EdHnTvB]'eoVaR495,Rv~/vPa[e^JI+^h5Zk*i`Q;ezqDW< ZFs6kmAJWZjOH\8[$$7jm,Ogw3C_%QM'|H6nygNGhhl+@}n30Nz(^vWo@h>Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Bytes: 3435 On 2024-07-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >> Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2024-07-23, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> On 2024-07-23, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple declined to comment on the NSPCC's accusation, instead >>>>>> pointing The Guardian to a statement it made when it shelved the >>>>>> CSAM scanning plan. Apple said it opted for a different >>>>>> strategy that “prioritizes the security and privacy of [its] >>>>>> users.” The company told Wired in August 2022 that "children >>>>>> can be protected without companies combing through personal >>>>>> data." >>>>> >>>>> This is one reason many people choose Apple over alternatives. >>>> >>>> iPhone. The preferred mobile device of child molestors. >>>> >>>> This could be a new marketing ploy someday! >>> >>> Privacy for everyone is important. >> >> Sorry, I can't agree with that. Some people give up their right to >> privacy when they harm others or society. The laws are there for >> everyone, not just those who choose to follow them. > > Agreed. > > No-one is forced to use icloud. If they didn't like the policy, they > could go elsewhere. True. Unlike others, Apple's proposal was to only scan images on device that were being uploaded to Apple's servers, and only match hashes of them to a database of hashes matching known CSAM images. And only after multiple matches reached a threshold would Apple investigate further. Yet even with those precautions, there was still a realistic chance of false positives and invasion of privacy, which is why they scrapped the proposal. > Like to google and meta, who are more than happy to share millionsof > people's private photos with law enforcement which apparently is just > fine. And they do so with zero privacy protections in place. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR