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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Apple accused of underreporting suspected CSAM on its platforms Date: 23 Jul 2024 17:55:55 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 33 Message-ID: <lga95bF8qq0U4@mid.individual.net> References: <v7mup4$7vpf$1@solani.org> <v7o49q$16cpi$1@dont-email.me> <v7obdd$17fqi$2@dont-email.me> <v7olme$19gq3$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net TXMbtsHTk7pw3KfmixJw4AmaSeTWxzU+DCAQod/Peze+t9v7yZ Cancel-Lock: sha1:6aGep1q+ald/hAdwCrZVAAkPhdA= sha256:S0FcfHgTWbU7OCo2IjOrzjMHoFA1cDgSQ6qdg6Qnps4= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1<n@LQ!aZ7vLO_nWbK~@T'XIS0,oAJcU.qLM dk/j8Udo?O"o9B9Jyx+ez2:B<nx(k3EdHnTvB]'eoVaR495,Rv~/vPa[e^JI+^h5Zk*i`Q;ezqDW< ZFs6kmAJWZjOH\8[$$7jm,Ogw3C_%QM'|H6nygNGhhl+@}n30Nz(^vWo@h>Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Bytes: 2518 On 2024-07-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote: >> Am 23.07.24 um 13:31 schrieb Chris: >> >>> After being a bit skeptical of Apple's solution, I realised it was a >>> pretty good and pragmatic balance between respecting people's >>> privacy and protecting vulnerable people. I was disappointed that >>> the angry "muh freedom" brigade scuppered it. >> >> It was neither a good nor an acceptable solution. This being the >> reason why Apple decided against it in the end. > > It was sunk by reactionary know-it-alls. If anyone bothered looked at > the technology - which Apple published openly - they would have seen > it was pretty elegant and privacy preserving. It still allowed for privacy invasion with false positives - and that's the point. > It could have been a really good tool to protect children, but no, > people's non-rights were more important. Apple's proposal was to match personal photos with *known* CSAM images. It would do nothing to detect *new* CSAM images. And it could not prevent false positive matches. Everyone on this planet should have a right to basic privacy. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR