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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: Apple accused of underreporting suspected CSAM on its platforms
Date: 23 Jul 2024 23:52:26 GMT
Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2024-07-23, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>On 2024-07-23, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>On 2024-07-23, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-07-23, badgolferman
>>>>>><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple declined to comment on the NSPCC's accusation,
>>>>>>> instead  pointing  The Guardian to a statement it made when it
>>>>>>> shelved the  CSAM scanning  plan.  Apple said it opted for a
>>>>>>> different strategy  that “prioritizes  the security and privacy
>>>>>>> of [its] users.” The  company told Wired in August 2022 that
>>>>>>> "children can be protected  without companies combing  through
>>>>>>> personal data."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is one reason many people choose Apple over
>>>>>> alternatives.
>>>>>
>>>>> iPhone.  The preferred mobile device of child molestors.
>>>>>
>>>>> This could be a new marketing ploy someday!
>>>>
>>>> Privacy for everyone is important.
>>>
>>> Sorry, I can't agree with that.  Some people give up their right to
>>> privacy when they harm others or society.  The laws are there for
>>> everyone, not just those who choose to follow them.
>>
>> Your problem is you want to invade everyone's privacy regardless of
>> whether they are hurting anyone. That's the only way CSAM scanning can
>> work, and why Apple wisely withdrew their proposal even though it
>> worked harder to preserve privacy than any other solution.
>
> No, I take exception to your statement that privacy is for *everyone*.
> There are plenty of people in this world who should have their privacy
> and freedom taken away forever.  Many of them their lives too.

Not people who haven't been convicted of crimes, no - which is exactly
what CSAM scanning does.

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