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Subject: Re: Approximately 300,000 km/s With Respect To What?
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Am Donnerstag000025, 25.07.2024 um 10:25 schrieb J. J. Lodder:
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>>>>> So you got that wrong too. (can't you ever get anything right?)
>>>>> Poincaré, like Einstein, was an engineer by training.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein was actually teacher from training.
>>>
>>> More nonsense.
>>> Einstein graduated from the ETH Zurich as an engineer, period,
>>> just like any other engineer.
>>> They didn't have 'teaching only' degrees. [1]
>>
>> I have read, that Einstein got a degree as teacher for physics.
>>
>> But, as a matter of fact, I cannot proof this and it is also of little
>> interest for me.
> 
> Yes, this was just another of your self-invented 'facts'.

'I have little interest' is actually true, whether you believe me or not.

Ok, possibly you won't regard that as fact, because that is not what you 
think.

BUT: facts are independent of your believes.

> 
>>> What is true is that Einstein prefered the general physics courses,
>>> and that he avoided specialised subjects as much as possible.
>>> He was, and wanted to be a generalist.
>>> It seems plausible that he got his job at the patent office
>>> precisely because of that.
>>
>> I have regarded it as questionable, that stateless foreigners could work
>> in an 'Amt', where usually only born citizens could work (because the
>> Patentamt was security critical).
> 
> Einstein wasn't a stateless foreigner, he was a Swiss citizen,
> and had been that since 1901.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

Einstein was born in 14 March 1879.

This means, that he acquired Swiss citizenship at the age of 22 and 
renounced German citizenship at the age of 16.

About both statements I have doubts, because I don't think, that they 
are actually possible.

Especially sceptical I'm about the possibility to renounce German 
citizenship, if you are 16 years old and want to become stateless.

As far as I know, German citizenship could only be laid off, if another 
country grants you citizenship and you are able to prove this.

Also: minors (below the age of 21) could not do anything with out their 
parents in those days in Germany.


> And he had an academic degree from a Swiss university
> that qualified him for the job.

Qualification is just one of the requirements for the status as state 
official, which were called 'Beamter' (because they work in an 'Amt') in 
the German speaking world.

About Swiss laws I don't know much, but assume they had somehow 
equivalent rules in those days.

But in Germany there was no chance to become 'Beamter', if you were not 
a born citizen.

> That 'born citizens only' thing is
> just another of your self-invented non-facts.

Well, possibly the Swiss allowed foreigners to become Beamter, but 
actually I don't think so, because the Swiss were most likely not that 
liberal in respect to foreigners.

>> My conclusion from this was, that Einstein WAS in fact born in
>> Swizzerland and his CV therefore a fake.
>>
>> Why Swizzerland did that and why they tried to derail common science,
>> that is a riddle for me.
> 
> Whatever the data, you will without fail arrive at the wrong comclusion.
> You are as useful for direction finding as a broken compass
> that never points north. If you say something it must be wrong.


Not quite.

I usually try to find a better explanation for the same facts.

This is called a 'hypothesis'.

Such a hypothesis might be correct but it is very often not correct.

I either case it is still a valid hypothesis.

In case of nobody is able to disprove it, this hypothesis is advanced to 
what is called 'theory'.

>> Possibly the Swiss had developed something useful, like a time machine
>> or device to synthesize Gold, which they wanted to have exclusively.
>>
>>

I opt on: both....


TH