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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.comics.strips Subject: Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike Date: 26 Jul 2024 16:49:01 GMT Organization: loft Lines: 53 Message-ID: <lgi2btFqgq2U1@mid.individual.net> References: <v7mhb5$qi0k$2@dont-email.me> <v7s265$ipa$1@panix2.panix.com> <v7ugem$2f1u3$2@dont-email.me> <faj7ajp5bv7afggnp3tdufb6riu1m13m63@4ax.com> X-Trace: individual.net Mud1yewC5IK+7BWMqeqHswzUvS12tWUrkQjtmzJGRRDipnSx6S X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:UsxvYR4IOrauj0pZuqiZUfFhVII= sha256:VhYak/lCIOPvq1+ijuybC1pz7ix4smDDrW/fyrtodxA= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Bytes: 3032 In article <faj7ajp5bv7afggnp3tdufb6riu1m13m63@4ax.com>, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 16:35:18 -0500, Lynn McGuire ><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On 7/24/2024 6:19 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> I saw an article where Microsoft was blaming the EU for forcing them >>>> to allow 3rd-party access to the Kernal, which they claim is what >>>> enabled the update to do bad things. If that is true, they may have a >>>> point. >>> >>> There is always third-party access to the kernel. In the Windows NT days >>> before Microsoft had figured out 1960s-style memory protection, any program >>> in user space could make changes to the kernel. And sometimes they >>> accidentally did. >>> >>> What the EU forced Microsoft to do was to DOCUMENT the kernel so that >>> people could more reliably get third-party access. >>> --scott >> >>There have always been back doors into the DOS, Win16, Win32, and Win64 >>kernels. I document some of those on my website: >> https://www.winsim.com/diskid32/diskid32.html > >I still have my Undocumented books (DOS, PC, Windows) and, somewhere a >very popular in its day list of IRQs that I downloaded at some point. > >/Undocumented Windows/ pointed out that, as Windows evolved (this was >mostly about the 16-bit versions), Microsoft re-organized the APIs it >provided but left a stub in the original DLL to transfer the call to >whatever DLL it was now in. > >I once used that to demonstrate that even a system that was clearly >designed could have "junk DNA" (superfluous code) in it. > >This, of course, was back when "junk DNA" was Proof Positive against >people being designed. > >Now there is no "junk DNA"; indeed, the difference between Man and >Monkey appears to be all about the former "junk DNA", which kind of >blows a hole in gene theory, as the non-genes appear to be more >important than the genes in some respects. >-- >"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, >Who evil spoke of everyone but God, >Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'" https://xkcd.com/1605/ -- columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..