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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Books Banned in Utah. Date: 12 Aug 2024 18:29:32 GMT Lines: 67 Message-ID: <lhv2kcFm1q9U1@mid.individual.net> References: <v90pgc$3clah$1@dont-email.me> <pan$cc65f$b383958e$45a7f8cd$8216c426@cpacker.org> <eg2fbjts1tdlmsvqoda3vhu5ghguib7vlo@4ax.com> <pan$c184e$6006bc52$d9c37a3b$bc6393b9@cpacker.org> <a859ae2b-fede-e306-a07b-ef8f3f7f0dd6@example.net> <pan$63411$1e56bedf$e9a11c35$3b13ae02@cpacker.org> <lhubmuFikonU1@mid.individual.net> <h4puO.400075$MC82.372157@fx17.iad> X-Trace: individual.net DJx3E0J1gAMCZhK1tfr10gU6UEB7jj3iCbRGLKGOsRvH796S+y Cancel-Lock: sha1:uvbxNiFVabcq/ZWUiIBg8ucmtrg= sha256:o2ihRA9JAdF7xpmQhq6EAATPzUV/SY5jc/ASl5bTf+Y= User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Bytes: 3762 On 2024-08-12, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote: > Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> writes: >>On 2024-08-12, Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote: >>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:25:41 +0200, D wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024, Charles Packer wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Subsequently the New York Times ran a story that resolved my puzzlement >>>>> over the structure of the list. If at least three school districts >>>>> decide to ban a book, all school districts in the state are required to >>>>> remove it from their libraries. >>>>> I looked up the locations of each of the five districts appearing in >>>>> the list and they're all in small towns. >>>>> Fun fact: Utah spends the least of any state on its public schools, on >>>>> a per pupil basis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What are their results per pupil? Money does not equal results as is >>>> often so painfully felt in sweden. >>> >>> >>> According to this website, >>> "New York has the highest per-pupil spending of all of the 50 >>> states. New York currently spends $24,040 per pupil, >>> approximately 90% above the national average. Utah has the >>> lowest per-pupil spending of $7,628 per student. " >>> >>> https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/per-pupil-spending-by- >>> state >> >>And???? What exactly are you trying to imply? >> >>Other "fun facts": On the 2022 NAEP (National Assessment of >>Educational Progress), which looks at 4th and 8th graders, Utah was the >>7th best and 3rd best state in reading, respectively. In math, it was >>5th and tied for 1st (with Massachusetts, with spending more than twice Utah)! > > Other "fun fact"; The cost of living in NY state is 2x the cost of > living in Utah which narrows the spending gap somewhat. Once again you are making claims without the evidence to back them up. Please give the citations to support your overblown claim. Yes, COL in New York *City* is easily twice that of any city in Utah. But that's not the whole state; I lived most of my life in upstate New York (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Watertown, Ithaca) and the COL there is quite reasonable. MY evidence for COL in New York *State* vs Utah: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state has New York at about 125% of Utah (125.1 vs 101.5 in normalized to 100 figures.) https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/cost-of-living-by-state/ has New York at 122% of Utah. https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/cost-of-living/utah-usa/new-york-usa has New York at 133% of Utah. Meanwhile, the latest public education spending statistics https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics has New York State at 355% of Utah (33.4K vs 9.4K). Bang for the buck! I await your citations. Chris