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On 12/10/24 4:06 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:07:36 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> Ahh... I lost a business deal with the government yesterday, and this
>>> old trick was specifically the reason. The IT-department was very
>>> pro-windows,

   Then not worth suffering for ....

>>> and with my solution, they had to manage linux and the hardware, but not
>>> the solution on top. With the competitor, they promised them that they'd
>>> take care of everything and that they would never have to see a
>>> terminal, and there was much rejoicing among the windows people.
>>
>> We had two sites that used Linux on the servers although the workstations
>> were Windows. In both cases the administrator was a Linux fan. When they
>> left or moved up the ladder the servers were moved to Windows.
> 
> Yep... a story that is sadly waaaaay too common! And todays story... 
> some of the students a colleague of mine is currently teaching 
> networking thought the exam was too difficult, so they told the school 
> they will refuse taking it, until it is made easier. ;)

   Then FAIL them all ... no mercy.

> The key here is that each students brings the school a nice profit of 
> 8000 EUR per year, so the threat of a student dropping out very often 
> softens the heart of the school, to the great frustration of the 
> teachers. =/


   Ah ... Gen-X/A2 ... it it ain't easy/zero-IQ then it's
   not worth attempting  :-)

   Look up the US term "DEI" .....

   The SCHOOL - well - the the profit per-student likely
   dictates its sympathies .....

   Somewhere, at least for now, there WILL be some who
   actually want to learn/practice the Black Arts of
   Linux/Unix and do-it-yourself programming. HIRE THEM !

   Kinda worried about BEYOND Now .....

   As some point the "AI" will be called upon to do
   it all. Then, for people, it's all MAGIC afterwards.
   NO comprehension of what/why/how.

   I speak as an oracle here ... just watch ......

   SOON NOW - the "AI" will be giving advice/code on
   how to improve the "AI". Humans won't Get It - and
   will just sign-off on the upgrades in hope of
   more $$$. THAT ought to be interesting  :-)

   A little bit of advice ... while you can ... get
   a fairly good general-purpose PC and install one
   of the BSDs. OpenIndiana/Solaris is maybe an
   offbeat alt (it's OK) and even the odd Plan-9
   can be useful (though intended for distributed
   systems). This will give you fair access while
   kinda circumventing the "AI"s and spy apps and
   such for awhile.