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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Defining Our Terms: What Do We Mean by "Hard SF"? Date: 16 Aug 2024 13:12:30 GMT Lines: 47 Message-ID: <li91huF75kfU1@mid.individual.net> References: <v8qtfr$j6v$1@reader1.panix.com> <tqlhbjl2hi25e4f95i6e7i7um24uo5qqv2@4ax.com> <10ppbjh8666vva4reo4jn6vtd7sm9k5hno@4ax.com> <v9jkhg$lr5i$1@dont-email.me> <v9mib6$1a8tp$1@dont-email.me> <v9mn2n$1aoa2$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net kJnqYrXLkvjnM7gD/vWP0gAuf0FrSLU8ofK79Hr5dZHwGrpgfg Cancel-Lock: sha1:VGC6riof1FaG+KNgVNWfGtqW/Zc= sha256:1FsrJXDNJVXceuhlYTKywNs8JJMJABpspr9rP2vEf94= User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Bytes: 3304 On 2024-08-16, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: > On 8/15/2024 8:51 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote: >> In article <v9jkhg$lr5i$1@dont-email.me>, >> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >>> Project 2025, written by Christian Nationalists many of whom were in the >>> Trump administration and expect to be there again. >> >> Project 2025 was written by the Heritage Foundation several years >> ago. (2019, I think?) Calling the Heritage Foundation "Christian >> Nationalists" makes the term a useless meaningless devil-word >> that means nothing more than you disagree with them. >> > They call _themselves_ Christian Nationalists. > > "Project 2025 Co-Author Says It's Time to ‘Rehabilitate' Christian > Nationalism" > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/project-2025-co-author-says-it-s-time-to-rehabilitate-christian-nationalism/ar-AA1oSs7k?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=cb712e533c4749269f3e699f1e009df8&ei=33 No, they do not call _themselves_ Christian Nationalists. A couple of them are, including the person quoted in your article (one of 35+ authors) but that doesn't mean the project is. That's just like saying the Democrats are all socialists because Bernie Sanders has a hand in some of their positions. Most articles about it are just political liberal fear-mongering. https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/08/project-2025-trump-election/ A tight focus on Trump’s agenda is all the more necessary, some Democrats said, amid turmoil over their ticket. One Democratic strategist close to the Biden campaign, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak frankly, said Democrats need to do something that, in their view, Republicans have usually done more effectively: “Instill fear in the American people.” I've only read a bit of it, but it's a hodge-podge of conservative positions from many sources, some positions reasonable and some of them objectionable. There's some 35 authors, over 300 contributors, over 60 conservative groups. As far as I can tell, Jesus or Christ is not mentioned at all anywhere in its 900+ pages. Very little of it is new, just a collection of conservative thought and wishlists, ranging from mainstream conservatism to way out there. It is not a coherent collection! Chris