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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:30:08 +0200 Lines: 69 Message-ID: <lilfqlF2nlqU6@mid.individual.net> References: <v9q6eu$1tlm9$1@dont-email.me> <liduroFtbroU2@mid.individual.net> <v9sh1e$2apq2$3@dont-email.me> <lig7svF8jpgU10@mid.individual.net> <v9vfe6$2qll6$10@dont-email.me> <liirfvFlcbgU4@mid.individual.net> <va1dn4$38k24$5@dont-email.me> <va1dti$38k24$6@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net oxMwscyDE5m2C0+GfQkz+wLS49AotXsUATn+rex1/B4u9RijNI Cancel-Lock: sha1:uDikFFvZNf7Y6pdcSPMpCX9TUBY= sha256:ubxSB0epjp+oXetF79qNiZDGBDRSQaGgAj+9bkcvBGw= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <va1dti$38k24$6@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3541 Am Dienstag000020, 20.08.2024 um 08:42 schrieb Python: > Le 20/08/2024 à 08:39, Python a écrit : >> Le 20/08/2024 à 08:30, Thomas Heger a écrit : >>> Am Montag000019, 19.08.2024 um 14:56 schrieb Python: >>> ... >>>>> There is also no equation, which could eventually be interpreted as >>>>> delay calculation. >>>> >>>> As I've shown there is. A single step from the provided equations >>>> leads to t_A = t_B - (AB)/c >>>> >>>>> Delay for a signal from A->B in distance x would be: >>>>> >>>>> x=c*t => delay (A->B)= x/c >>>>> >>>>> Extremely simple, isn't it? >>>> >>>> Extremely stupid insteed x=c*t is not generally true. x/c is >>>> not at all the delay your asking for. (AB)/c is such a delay. >>> >>> Einstein defined two coordinate systems (K and k). >>> >>> System k was placed with its center upon the axis of x of system K. >>> >>> So the value 'x' is a coordinate in respect to system K with >>> distance |x| to system K's center. >>> >>> Now I use this setting and place A in the center of K and B in the >>> center of k. >>> >>> So: the distance from A to B is x. >>> >>> Well, yes, this was a little bad, because I had to explain it in the >>> first place, before I could use this setting. >> >> What you "explain" is, again, something you made up out of nothing. >> >> Systems K and k are even defined yet in paragraph 2. >> >> It makes basically no sense to put the center of K at A and the >> center of k at B. K and k are in relative motion while clock-A >> and clock-B are mutually at rest. So your "setting" is setting >> v to 0. > > Addendum : "the distance from A to B is x": this is wrong too. > x is the coordinate of an event in system K, it is not, in > general, the distance between origins of K and k. 'x' is a generic coordinate in system K and means a distance from the center of K to a point on the x-axis. Since system k was placed with its center upon the x-axis and B in the center of k, the distance from A to B would actually be x. But, of course, your critique is valid and you should not use generic variables for special purposes. Therefore I made already the proposal to call the distance from A to B 'd'. BTW: x was not meant as coordinate of an event, because system K and k were defined as Euclidian coordinate systems. Such a coordinate system does not contain time in any way, hence cannot address events. ... TH