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In article <vag2h5$22kuk$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/25/2024 1:37 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <vafltb$1vf5n$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/25/2024 11:22 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Boeing spacesuit is made to work with the Starliner spacecraft,
>>>>>> and the SpaceX spacesuit is made to work with the Dragon spacecraft,
>>>>>> NASA told Fox News Digital. =93Both were designed to fit each unique
>>>>>> spacecraft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops. I suspect that SpaceX will send up a couple of new space suits on=20
>>>>>> the next supply spaceship.
>>>>
>>>> For Apollo-Soyuz, the Soviets made up some adaptor boxes that went from the
>>>> American space suit connections to the Russian ones (as well as the adaptor
>>>> ring to connect the two capsules).  I am surprised this is not a solution.
>>>>
>>>>> See, /this/ is why the ISO exists.
>>>>
>>>> The ISO isn't really all that useful in the real world, partly because they
>>>> promote standards without reference to how systems are used in the
>real world
>>>> and partly because they charge money for the standards meaning small
>>>> organizations are strongly discouraged from following new ISO standards that
>>>> are not already in common use.
>>>>
>>>> The whole upside-down-wedding cake of networking protocols looked great but
>>>> didn't map in practice to what people were really using, and when
>tcp/ip took
>>>> over the world it was like a steamroller over top of the ISO.
>>>> --scott
>>>>
>>>
>>> For a of couple years around 1990, I actually had to deal with
>>> OSI protocols at MITRE.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good riddance.
>>>
>>> pt
>> 
>> I got sent to a conference on it around the same time.  My reaction was
>> similiar: We already do all this stuff (file transfer, email etc)
>> with existing protocols.  Why tear it all up?
>> 
>> Apparently everyone felt the same.
>
>I was told 'OSI is official and standardized, and the government will
>mandate its use'.

Yep!

>
>I remember the same thing said about Ada, a bit earlier.
>
>pt

I think we actually had to get a Ada waiver on a few projects.
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