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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: American War a dystopic novel Date: 31 Aug 2024 06:18:27 GMT Organization: loft Lines: 74 Message-ID: <ljfqtjF3gbnU1@mid.individual.net> References: <varj6s$c1sq$1@dont-email.me> <vat874$kerq$1@dont-email.me> <ljfb5cF18ttU2@mid.individual.net> <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me> X-Trace: individual.net /dKNMCjgRPkxijxorZBcSg2hYH/N47hRWsQhVLwVoDC3lD+xrs X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:g6R3FU4JfucdOearqntiNRC5G3I= sha256:mBk9J3KtTbdo+FlEoKXAvEcJqOER0iKSz9HIs5PQmI8= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Bytes: 4173 In article <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote: >On 8/30/24 18:49, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> In article <vat874$kerq$1@dont-email.me>, >> Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote: >>> On 8/30/24 11:30, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>>> On 8/29/2024 11:52 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>> I read this in May of 2017 >>>>> "American War"- set in a future of Global Warming and post American >>>>> Civil War II. No Florida and the Southern Coast is depleted. >>>>> The Big Bay* is in Central California. I.e. the Central Valley >>>>> and San Joaquin Valley are flooded. Only the high points of >>>>> the San Francisco Bay Area remain above water. >>>>> A Free Southern State exists with a quarantine zone in South >>>>> Carolina. Florida is gone. New Orleans is gone. >>>>> A Mexican Protectorate extends past San Francisco and takes >>>>> up the Southern-Most tier of Western states. >>>>> >>>>> The narrator of the tale of the female protagonist lives in >>>>> New Anchorage, Alaska where they might see frost on the >>>>> windows in January, but it never snows. Alaska is a Neutral >>>>> State >>>>> ` The author is one Omar El Akkad. >>>>> >>>>> The ACW II takes place from 2074-2095 caused by the >>>>> Southern states unwillingness to abide by the ban on >>>>> Fossil Fuels finally enacted. Florida is gone. >>>>> A girl's father is murdered and a thirst for revenge >>>>> grows within her as the War goes on. Horrendous acts >>>>> are done on each side and the protagonist does the >>>>> final horrendous act of the War, which kills the last >>>>> of her relatives but not intentionally. >>>>> >>>>> It could be sub-titled Fall of the American Empire! >>>>> >>>>> bliss >>>> >>>> Tallahassee, Florida (the panhandle) is 203 feet above sea level. Is >>>> that underwater ? >>>> >>>> Lynn >>>> >>> Maybe an island or washed away or the underlying geological have >>> collapsed. but the Florida peninsula is gone on the map. >>> >> >> There's rolling hills in Hernando county as well... >> >> The description puts me in the mind of a certain Costner movie... > > Well in this novel there is plenty of land but a lot of >productive land has been lost with the loss of the Southern mid-west. >a great big gulf where New Orleans used to be shortens the Mississippi >and some of its tributary rivers run right into that gulf. > > The old USA is broken into self-interested small nations. >Except for the West Coast which has been reclaimed by Mexico. The >author may have taken some liberties in disregarding the elevations >of certain portions of the nation but it was a good read at the time. > >And is pretty hard science that there is no way to defend the land >from the rising water. Exactly how fast it will happen is the main >dispute. I live in California where we have earthquakes and The Dutch might dispute that.. Not sure this one would be for me, sounds a bit too bleak. Trying to think of other SF examples of sea rise, but all that's coming to mind (other than the sinking of Atlantis) right now is the XKCD "Time" sequence. -- columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..