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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The problem of relativistic synchronisation Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 09:24:04 +0200 Lines: 90 Message-ID: <ljqg76FmfojU1@mid.individual.net> References: <m_uze6jFLkrMPuR4XaNmQntFPLY@jntp> <vaa4om$sicr$16@dont-email.me> <tAXYNx1-wzYUg_H0N6FWnLiQgFs@jntp> <vasgsq$go2j$1@dont-email.me> <TjDY9uUVn5uYrwKeP_H1Mk0G5x8@jntp> <ljfrjfF3hr1U1@mid.individual.net> <IqoVDZIyxVoLReItZ3sD4aYyQ64@jntp> <ljifq8FfkpfU4@mid.individual.net> <n1NunzaSneGRSHWe2aSXzpS1tkE@jntp> <ljl42mFrt9qU2@mid.individual.net> <p2RSa2nmyY3QibDdou42v9g0HlQ@jntp> <ljnmhfF974rU6@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 2+n+e71/qYpV8aK3mysfJAoIH+swwBUe0jH/LktZLp84B8tIOU Cancel-Lock: sha1:HCxelQTAVG8J8+e0mzAuhebHW44= sha256:OTpxZt6Jm177Vi6hYZDqxrsSzLyNziNLj66lM5VL8I0= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <ljnmhfF974rU6@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 4783 Am Dienstag000003, 03.09.2024 um 07:53 schrieb Thomas Heger: > Am Montag000002, 02.09.2024 um 14:16 schrieb Richard Hachel: >> Le 02/09/2024 à 08:25, Thomas Heger a écrit : >>>> >>> >>> >>> I use the observation, that clocks around the Earth surface tick at >>> the same rate, while they don't tick at the same rate at different >>> altitudes. >> >> There is already a bias here. >> If a watch is placed at altitude, it does not evolve at the same speed >> as a fixed watch placed at the level of our local mass reference >> center that we could put the sun, or even the galactic center. The >> effects of these reference frames are perhaps negligible. I do not >> know. But at least, the effects of the revolution of the object around >> the center of the earth are not the same as the effects >> on an object placed on the surface of the ground. Worse, for the >> object placed on the surface of the ground, it is the center of the >> earth that rotates around it; and also for the other. These effects >> are no longer really Galilean, but effects of rotating reference >> frames for which I have given the equations, and which cause some >> surprises (it is the object that goes the fastest that has the time >> that passes the fastest, contrary to Galilean effects). >> > There exist no 'center of the universe', because everything moves. > > If we define a certer of our own local frame of reference, we do this > for pratical purposes, even if no such thing as a center would exist. > > > I personally prefer a setting, where the observer in question rests in > the center of his own frame of reference. > > I call this perspective 'subjectivism', because this is the view we have > from the world around us. > > We could use any other point, however, if we decide to do so. > > But this wouldn't make this point the center of the world, but the > center of our frame of reference. > > But none of these 'centers' is actually real, because the universe has > no center. > This is actually the reason, why 'big-bang-theory' must be wrong. The big bang would be, in a way, the center of the universe and the beginning of time. This MUST be wrong, because in case of b-b-theory would be correct, then every single point in the universe had to be connected in a calender like fashion with the big bang. This would cause a roughly spherical shape. But that sphere would have an end somewhere, which would lead to logical problems, because the points outside would need to have their own big-bang. More likely is a different over all structure of the universe. This is a view, where local times can have different directions, which is not universally parallel. This would cause some 'infolding', where the future of our world would be the past to some other world, which is real, nevertheless. Such a 'negative world' would behave as 'mirrored' and is righthanded, where our world is lefthanded. Such a world would consist of anti-matter like ours is built from 'usual' matter (usual for us). And time there would run into the opposite direction. This 'anti-world' isn't that far away, but drifts ghostlike right throug our own, but invisible. Some gifted people could see this anyhow and are able to communicate with beeings living there. They occasionally cut deals with them and transport messages from the future backwards, while providing the same service for beeings from the other side. TH