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From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Subject: Re: Yes, t'=t in GPS.
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:16:15 +0200
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Am Donnerstag000005, 05.09.2024 um 10:26 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
> W dniu 05.09.2024 o 08:57, Thomas Heger pisze:
>> Am Mittwoch000004, 04.09.2024 um 23:10 schrieb Python:
>>> Le 04/09/2024 à 23:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>> W dniu 04.09.2024 o 21:30, Python pisze:
>>>>> Le 04/09/2024 à 20:21, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>>>>> W dniu 04.09.2024 o 19:48, gharnagel pisze:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 13:09:57 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Common sense was warning your idiot guru.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> St. John the Divine was warning Warped Wozniak, the
>>>>>>> bald-faced liar:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> St John (fuck his absurd threats anyway) won't
>>>>>> help,  t'=t in GPS,  at least if by t, t' we
>>>>>> mean clock  indications.
>>>>>
>>>>> How such t and t' are clock indications.
>>>>
>>>> According to the own definition of
>>>> your [Einstein] - time is "what clocks
>>>> indicate",
>>>
>>> Don't be lazy, Wozniak, read! "time is "what clocks indicate" is
>>
>> This is wrong!
>>
>> Time does not depend on clocks, because clocks are manmade artifacts.
> 
> Are they? And so is time, except that it is
> an abstract.


Wrist-watches, for instance, are tiny machines.

But those machines are made by human beings.

It would make no sense at all to assume, that nature would produce 
wrist-watches or cares, whether or not humans do.

Therefore time is not related to watches!

Watches measure time, but are not producing time or having any impact 
upon the flow of time.

The concept of time is based on common experiences, like aging or the 
dayly sunrise, for which we like to have a practical measure.

The events like 'sunrise' or 'sping equinox' are counted and the 
progress of the counting is called 'time'.

There is good reason to assume a flow of time, but no good reason to 
assume stability of the length of the year forever.

....


TH