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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: Hotmail account
Date: 13 Sep 2024 20:29:17 GMT
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On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
>>>>>>> insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that
>>>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user
>>>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication
>>>>>>> methods"!  What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication.  I hope iOS Mail
>>>>> will incorporate this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and
>>>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
>>>>> follow.
>>>>
>>>> You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail
>>>> on that same page.
>>>
>>> You didn't read my post properly.
>>> I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple
>>> Mail, at least according to that website.
>> 
>> You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle
>> when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it
>> the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either.
>
> Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with 
> T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
> The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the 
> change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.

I guess if it were me, I'd submit feedback about it.

> Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far 
> from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details, 
> re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my 
> clients, they'll stumble a few times.

It would be interesting to know how many of them are still using
Hotmail.

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