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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 16:25:05 +0300 Organization: Tidorum Ltd Lines: 39 Message-ID: <ll2n1hFu4lmU1@mid.individual.net> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcd3ds$3o6ae$2@dont-email.me> <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <2024Sep18.074007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vcds4i$3vato$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep18.220953@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vcfopr$8glq$3@dont-email.me> <ll232oFs6asU1@mid.individual.net> <vcgo74$gkr1$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net M7RhDo6AydBokWnCuAgizwOU/YfjV2y5b3tt2zfN3BAcQZiEhi Cancel-Lock: sha1:84RbYo+QrB2+Y4YZRmSXDXzPlAk= sha256:q7eM2+6wh+XG+JUnZbhIIA7q/7PYd2/NfOe+Xo+0lsc= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vcgo74$gkr1$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2552 On 2024-09-19 11:43, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 10:44:24 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote: > >> On 2024-09-19 2:47, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 20:09:53 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: >>> >>>> He mentioned that several physics breakthroughs >>>> are needed for quantum computing to become useful. >>> >>> The biggest one would be getting around the fundamental problem that >>> you can’t get something for nothing. >> >> Stupid argument. Look at the effort and tech it takes to make quantum >> computers... that is not "nothing". > > Is there some ongoing “Nature’s Rentware” involved? I have no idea what you mean by that. >>> The promise of an exponential increase in computing power for a linear >>> increase in the number of processing elements sounds very much like >>> “something for nothing” under another name, wouldn’t you say? >> >> No, it is exploiting the very non-intuitive nature of quantum >> entanglement to create an exponential number of collective states of a >> linear number of elements. > > That’s called the “many worlds interpretation” of quantum mechanics, and > it is philosophical mumbo-jumbo nonsense. The /fact/ that quantum mechanics describes how the world works, entanglement and all, does not depend on the various attempts to "interpret" or understand its foundations.