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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Date: 24 Sep 2024 17:49:41 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <llgcdkF2sq0U2@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ONQBHBCbN+5gfALafC3RBwW8kQXE/vBldy4DyB4tghTr+1Plwc Cancel-Lock: sha1:BbyvnSTqVLPUjjzAxEDZiGb9dfE= sha256:9wmkzpXVkE6vmUUajNu9c/36tDtZDjoOZR40u28x9NI= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2121 On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 02:45:16 -0400, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > But my #1 fave is still Pascal. Poetry > Thank you professor Wirth ! It isn't my favorite but Pascal wasn't bad after some real world additions took it out of the academic world sort of like the impurities introduced into common lisp made it usable. U of Maine used Pascal for a didactic language. Sprague Electric tended to hire UM graduates. Pascal wasn't great for automated testing, process control, or robotic arm manipulators so I had some good paydays writing modules they could use. > Hey, want "Real Computing" ? Try FORTRAN or COBOL. THOSE were the > foundation and persist to this day. Wrote a FORTRAN app just a couple > of years ago - mostly to vex the New Guys. Also a short COBOL app, > that oughtta REALLY give 'em the shits ! FORTRAN IV was my first language This spring our department moved and in the process I found some of my old books that I hadn't used in years. I realized the F77 book was as hopelessly out of date as the C++ books, including an early Stroustrup. The Java book from the '90s was a slender little thing compared to the huge later additions, and the Python 2.x references weren't too useful. otoh, the C and POSIX books were as valid as ever.