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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: 28 Sep 2024 02:20:45 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <llp7ftFdihoU4@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <llgckbF2sq0U3@mid.individual.net> <vcuupr$2pg09$1@paganini.bofh.team> <156256844.748909906.434683.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd0p06$3knoh$6@dont-email.me> <1696219735.749088927.121438.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd52jb$i6sg$7@dont-email.me> <99CJO.19678$MoU3.7045@fx36.iad> <vd7f76$tdq8$8@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net iVuRIzKA1vtK+25hNG22lQcvFBdZEWlS55J7cMQgB8YfKzptEX Cancel-Lock: sha1:rze2vvBJiW4ht7a4WgYtjTJ571k= sha256:M82RwiEL24oR/eP8toz8sfHX6KptTaNdmj+UzHCGqLk= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2136 On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 23:30:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > Back in the days when BASIC was considered “advanced” ... I don't think Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code was ever considered 'advanced'. “It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.” ― Edsger Dijkstra https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1013817.Edsger_W_Dijkstra He thought highly of COBOL too. “The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense.” We had a RS6000 machine named 'djikstra' (sic). It was probably named by the director of engineering. His personal Linux box was 'warfrat'. You learn about regular expressions when search code created by a person who couldn't spell for sour owl shit.