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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: 1 Oct 2024 18:52:28 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <lm2uncFsii5U1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me> <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <1297730607.749420765.030433.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net XE9DOTmneDlDR11SDAtdSwHj2yYDPpncgeLhzahgNY8Ja+izuF Cancel-Lock: sha1:woRegPNZN9KYtCv+L9qbvpiLWv8= sha256:Vy/om+4xBKV7FItfMzPYTy0Eq75ODsWnE7LS4bNB+rc= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2306 On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 14:19:44 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > I think a new language has to have SOMETHING significantly better than > it’s predecessors to catch on. Otherwise why bother? I know nothing > about Rust, but isn’t it supposed to fix C’s buffer overflow problem. > X86 architecture has been an accident since the 8080. It’s a prime > example of extending something way beyond its usefulness. I saw > something about Intel defining a new ISA which is x86 with all the weird > corners filed off. Intel's real 32 bit processor was supposed to be the iAPX 432, with the x86 a rework of the 8080 as a stop gap. O think I have the preliminary data sheets around here someplace. They threw money at it for about 10 years and failed. It will be interesting to watch their RISC attempts.