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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 23:34:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> And the Athenians, of course, came up with what they called “democracy”.
> We use the term nowadays, but we use it for quite a different concept
> from the way they practised it (because our concepts of equality and
> fairness have evolved a bit beyond the era of slavery and women as
> property).

iirc before they managed to weaken each other to allow external enemies to 
take over the whole mess Sparta prevailed.