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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Lunduke's video on this latest issue Date: 17 Oct 2024 18:37:23 GMT Lines: 38 Message-ID: <lnd3r2Fbuo3U3@mid.individual.net> References: <%5mJO.22860$MxR.7503@fx47.iad> <vd5chg$jdi1$6@dont-email.me> <hVxJO.220449$FzW1.41428@fx14.iad> <vd7eib$tcgq$4@dont-email.me> <bkfefjlkk4sdre8p930bv290q2fdh6rbdl@4ax.com> <vd9r9i$1d7ti$2@dont-email.me> <hCaKO.165121$EEm7.154465@fx16.iad> <vdc488$1qkcp$5@dont-email.me> <rtmKO.36383$afc4.30329@fx42.iad> <vddhmq$24oap$3@dont-email.me> <w7yKO.414644$_o_3.175108@fx17.iad> <vepf7p$2e4fp$4@dont-email.me> <lCXPO.62600$Enpe.42231@fx38.iad> <veqc7h$2levu$7@dont-email.me> <1W7QO.226120$1m96.190224@fx15.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net CDSBZ4WbG5+tMsv82v74xgtiDXRAnmVfBXD2HAQaVooNYdteR2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PDy2wL8nBAxpI3aFiGpMSoBCYHw= sha256:HEQjNYnwdyQQarhH21CKjacUO6z5sRhFT6Ad7fl5Y5Y= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3100 On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:02:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly > install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be > used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For > example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household > conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be > to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit. That proved to be a problem. Amazon's brilliant idea was Alexa would be used to buy stuff so the hardware was sold at cost or below. They didn't foresee people would use Alexa to play music or turn the lights off, not purchase items. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/amazon-alexa-is-a-colossal- failure-on-pace-to-lose-10-billion-this-year/ That's a two year old article. Here's the update. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/alexa-had-no-profit-timeline-cost- amazon-25-billion-in-4-years/ Amazon's predicament is even worse than losing money on the devices. The device responds to the wake word, 'alexa' or whatever. You can change it. A woman I know by the name of Alex had to, obviously. Anyway after waking up the speech processing is done on Amazon servers, so there is the continuing expense of keeping the servers running. Now they have the quandary of telling happy Alexa users they will stop working, which is a legally fraught move, or try to talk them into a subscription which won't fly either. Pardon my Schadenfreude at Amazon screwing themselves. Other products worked out a lot better. The ads on my ad supported Kindles seldom result in a purchase but I do by a lot of books on kindle. The same for the Fire TV. I only subscribe to Netflix in addition to the Amazon Prime service but I assume they get a cut from Netflix.