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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: 19 Oct 2024 03:15:19 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <lngmi7Fst0qU1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <slrnvfu75g.t6vq.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <kMedne0I3JBuxmL7nZ2dnZfqnPgLyJ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvgdhcc.2nfc6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <ve6pfp$2p1hd$8@dont-email.me> <ve8612$33lq0$3@dont-email.me> <ve9vga$3cbkr$4@dont-email.me> <mIdOO.204988$1m96.63811@fx15.iad> <vec4l3$3q4ms$5@dont-email.me> <criOO.380449$WOde.297877@fx09.iad> <20241014080601.00007478@gmail.com> <ln5gklF755tU4@mid.individual.net> <38fb5a91-5d00-be42-4bfe-2a05232a82c1@example.net> <ln7tooFijhpU2@mid.individual.net> <vemfq7$1qobu$5@dont-email.me> <venqec$24hhj$2@dont-email.me> <sFRPO.380393$FzW1.50024@fx14.iad> <mm96uk-us2.ln1@anthive.com> <82bcedf2-be4a-a2da-3f77-fbbed147ef30@example.net> <b_cQO.485643$_o_3.184210@fx17.iad> <ves1hu$2tsr0$2@dont-email.me> <JehQO.486095$_o_3.317717@fx17.iad> <ves7mv$2uo13$7@dont-email.me> <lndphtFfcr3U2@mid.individual.net> <vetdc9$388hc$13@dont-email.me> <veuj7o$3fkh5$4@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 42QskWrny30lNQQ9lCsD3AaVCPLTtS3kyBHwPwYM+hy4pfrD6S Cancel-Lock: sha1:+2VxTeSRM3Qqq4VTRFad/G2RMWg= sha256:vDVVAcPWtHmcgN/fjfaG5PKiZuPhGixfUf3LCEzo7s0= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 2428 On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 21:16:40 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 11:30:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> All government is a self-legalising protection racket. > > Would you rather live a life that is, what was the phrase, “nasty, > brutish and short”? Hobbes ignored centuries of societies that did quite well without a dictatorial sovereign in charge. Kropotkin may have went to the other extreme in 'Mutual Aid' but he makes many valid points. Scale is the real problem. A state like the US with over 300 million people, half of which would like to see the other half hanging from lamp poles, is impossible without a highly coercive government.