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From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy
Date: 20 Oct 2024 01:36:32 GMT
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:50:10 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

>> Read Tacitus for example.
> 
> Fictional/hypothetical society, or real society?

Publius Cornelius Tacitus writing about the Germanic people on 'De origine 
et situ Germanorum', aka 'Germania'. He was one of the to describe a 
Thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly)

Eventually kings showed up on the scene, often in conjunction with 
Christianity. 

More recent examples are many of the indigenous tribe in North America. 
Like the early Teutons there might be a war chief when they were going to 
war. That was the guy who survived the last war and had shown some gifts 
for tactics and strategy. Likewise when they went hunting the best hunter 
would lead. 

Russell Means had a humorous take on it. The whites would show up and want 
to talk to the chief. They would look around and pick the best bullshit 
artist, not necessarily someone they paid any attention to. 

What were the Māori doing before the white man showed up?