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On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:30:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Who was it who said: “the price of liberty is eternal vigilance”.

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/105.html

"persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their 
gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in 
anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation 
has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & 
what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does 
this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single instance 
of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a rebellion so 
honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they were founded in 
ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be 20 years without 
such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always, well informed. the 
part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance 
of the facts they misconceive; if they remain quiet under such 
misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public 
liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one 
rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each 
state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a 
rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are 
not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of 
resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to 
facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or 
two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the 
blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure. our Convention has 
been too much impressed by. . ."


Thomas Jefferson

I believe what he was referring to in Massachisetts was Shays' Rebellon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays's_Rebellion

The tree is looking a little wilted.