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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: does the universe exist beyond our horizon?? Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 07:35:25 +0200 Lines: 52 Message-ID: <lnm7gnFnj47U5@mid.individual.net> References: <4c8b8d01-2e10-64b6-8b95-82e8d61362da@ichigo.kinoko.kuri> <vf2hl5$bn5t$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net AvERpzue1waIfZxsxWbwSAD6rBSukNuf7ArEdtzFMARj/9uz8X Cancel-Lock: sha1:Crv18Wu0T2UWJmDdgSkglFaJLRM= sha256:RzD7YsoBGaexB8/qPtcb+HnvQSQigFn0bCuDoVssuF0= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <vf2hl5$bn5t$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2635 Am Sonntag000020, 20.10.2024 um 11:14 schrieb Mikko: > On 2024-10-19 19:03:34 +0000, kazu said: > >> essentially what i am asking is, is there something outside? or can >> there even be outside?? > > The observable unverse looks like a small part of a larger, possibly > infinite, universe. > >> is the universe like an egg and we are the yoke?? > > As far as can be seen every part of the universe is similar to every > other part. I small scale there are clusters and superclusters of > galaxies but they seem to be evenly scattered. No shell, ho yoke- > The universe 'folds into itself'. There is no 'outside' and no edge. You must think about the axis of time, which is not always parallel to ours in other places. This 'axis of time' is imaginary in any given context and can have an orientation into a spatial direction in respect to some other location's time. Actually time can run 'backwards' (from our perspective), what would make the hypersheet of the present for such a 'backwards running axis of time' look like seen through a mirror. This 'other world with backwards running time' is invisible to us (usually), but real and relatively close. This 'other world' has a future, too, but within our past. This would generate an overall 'infolding universe', which has no outside. The reason is, that it has no edge, since flying to an alleged 'edge of the universe' would bring us only to some other region, which has also an axis of time and also a hypersheet of the present, which is also perpendicular the local time. The pattern is kind of similar to a 'moebius strip'. You can walk along that as long as you like, but you would not encounter an end. TH