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From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject: Re: The Joy Of Democracy
Date: 25 Oct 2024 20:43:38 GMT
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:50:25 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> On 2024-10-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 05:35:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 12:53:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2024-10-23 2:56 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you mean “large cities”, those are in fact the backbone of your
>>>>> economy. The US isn’t an agrarian society any more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why should the value of someone’s vote depend on where they live?
>>>> 
>>>> If the people in those "large cities" do not receive food, what will
>>>> happen to them?
>>> 
>>> They won’t be able to make the machines that the farmers use to farm
>>> their crops. There would be no electricity generation or fuel supply,
>>> no manufacturing of farmhouses, no laying of roads for the trucks to
>>> supply feed and fertilizer and seed and take away produce. Nobody to
>>> pay the farmers. Nobody to educate them on how to grow their crops.
>>> 
>>> The whole system collapses.
>>
>> You are so fucking ignorant it's pathetic. Do you really think they
>> manufacture tractors in New York City, Baltimore, or LA? Harvest the
>> lumber needed to build houses? Drill wells for oil and gas? Mine coal?
> 
> I don't think he's ever done any real work in his whole life.

As usual he is talking out of his ass. When I took a break from 
programming in the '90s I drove OTR and went to all of the lower 48 except 
Vermont and Maine, as well as western Canada. I know where I picked up 
manufactured goods or agricultural products and where I took them. 

Trucking is sort of like a chess game. When you get a good paying load 
going from Point A to Point B you're also looking ahead to how you're 
going the get a load from Point B. Shippers aren't stupid and realize if 
the loads going out are scarce they can pay less than the actual cost if 
the trucking company wants to get the truck moving. For example I've 
brought a lot of carpet to Denver, either from the mills in GA or imports 
from the LA ports. About the only thing leaving Denver is dog food from 
the Ralston Purina plant. (or people food. It sort of worried me that the 
forklifts came from the same direction). 

Particularly in the big eastern cities you'd bounce (run empty) several 
hundred miles to get a load. Take carpet to Brooklyn and you find there is 
absolutely nothing shipped out of Brooklyn. You need to get to rural PA.]