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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 04:14:53 +0000 Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <o4ucnYo2YLqmZ876nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vj1m3f$33eu5$16@dont-email.me> <947j2lx3qf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <lrolhlFkmd2U1@mid.individual.net> <vj77pi$f8rj$9@dont-email.me> <24ffec92-9486-251d-7a42-d376b88b2c9b@example.net> <20241209135847.00004fb7@gmail.com> <lrpjjpFpep6U1@mid.individual.net> <G5mdnXqNwMsTeMr6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <a2247e79-41bd-a62e-1196-b12cd9385b96@example.net> <qmCdnbXw77vmtcT6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <20241211084303.00006d53@gmail.com> <vjcfu1$1k27r$5@dont-email.me> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 23:14:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vjcfu1$1k27r$5@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <loGcnS4oQKCg_sf6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 40 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-EajWXtns4W/7O609UkGgB/kLiuyY8TEHzVXAMu3OtFtzSIK6YPCQuOOCjzavjzEdup6jhjwOPvjAC56!EBsB3WwmCGrt3caFqIKyM+qppkzcuXs0h80CB/1J6bUJdTYqTVr9kWu2u1h9M/XFF+8bbwQjQIXR!1zZUh9bejUEKxSsK0rfi X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3215 On 12/11/24 11:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 11/12/2024 16:43, John Ames wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 00:51:47 -0500 >> "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >> >>> Better innovate SOMETHING, otherwise we're gonna see 'peak computing' >>> when it's become clear we need thousands of times that for the Really >>> Cool Stuff. >> >> I've long been of the opinion that things're gonna get Real Interesting >> when Moore's Law finally his the wall and "throw a beefier rig at it!" >> is no longer a viable pitch for any "your X isn't delivering Y fast >> enough for project Z!" problems. >> > We have already hit it. > > Hence the proliferation of multiple cores. > > Which works for multi-user and multi-threaded operations, but not > necessarily for linear single thread code. Very correct. In some respects it's a "how do we DEFINE computing ?" sort of thing. A bunch of Nvidia chips doing "AI" is one way of looking at it. The peta+ FLOPS you may want to solve a supernova implosion or horrific math equation is another. In short 'performance' now has to take a cue from "What We WANT done" rather than the olde-tyme benchmarks. Not everything can be 'parallelized' either ... some jobs just require vast instructions-per ... As said elsewhere, 'pure photonic' tech MAY provide the ultimate - 10x to 100x what we're seeing with the low-nanometer transistor designs. But, in this universe, that's kinda IT. We need a new universe.